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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HEY, GUYS.
WELCOME TO ANOTHER EPISODE OFON AIR WITH REBECCA.
TODAY WE ARE DIVING DEEPER INTO THE MYSTERIES OF THE MESSIAH
HIDDEN THROUGHOUT BOTH THE NEW AND OLD TESTAMENT.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT MANY BELIEVERS ARE STILL
MISSING OUT ON HALF OF THEIR INHERITANCE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS AND
MORE, BUT PLEASE WELCOME TO THE SHOW THE FOUNDER OF
FUSION GLOBAL, AUTHOR AND SPEAKER RABBI JASON SOBEL.
RABBI JASON SOBEL: SHALOM,
IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE WITH YOU.
REBECCA: HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
AND STARTING OFF, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN,
MISSING HALF OF THE INHERITANCE?
JASON: YEAH, THERE'S A GREAT BIBLE VERSE.
YESHUA, JESUS, SAYS, ONE OF HIS PARABLES, HE SAYS,
"WHAT CAN A SCRIBE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE KINGDOM OF
HEAVEN BE COMPARED TO LIKE A HOUSEHOLD,
THAT BRINGS FORTH TREASURES NEW AND OLD."
AND I THINK THE FULL INHERITANCE IS WHAT GOD
WANTS TO GIVE US, AND I THINK SO MANY CHRISTIANS
SETTLE FOR THE NEW, WHICH IS THE NEW TESTAMENT.
SO MANY JEWISH PEOPLE SETTLE FOR THE OLD,
WHICH IS THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES, THE OLD TESTAMENT.
AND THERE'S EVEN CHURCHES CALLED NEW TESTAMENT CHURCHES,
IT'S LIKE, WHAT, YOU FORGOT THE WHOLE OTHER
HALF OF THE BIBLE?
[ LAUGHING ]
JASON: RIGHT.
SO GOD WANTS US TO BRING THE TWO TOGETHER,
BECAUSE THAT'S THE FULL REVELATION.
YOU CAN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE NEW IF YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND THE PROMISES OF THE OLD,
BECAUSE THE NEW TESTAMENT IS THE FULFILLMENT OF ALL
THE PROPHECIES, ALL THE MESSIANIC PROMISES GOD
MADE, AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE SHOULD SETTLE FOR
HALF AN INHERITANCE.
REBECCA: AMEN.
THAT IS SUCH A GOOD WORD.
AND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, IT'S CONSTANTLY QUOTING
AND REFERENCING THE OLD.
SO EVEN THE NEW WAS AFFIRMING THE OLD IN ITS
OWN WRITING BY REFERENCING IT.
AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU HAVE
A NEW BOOK.
JASON: YEAH.
REBECCA: MYSTERIES OF THE MESSIAH.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS BOOK IS DOING.
IT'S CONNECTING THE TWO BY SHOWING HOW MESSIAH IS
THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE BIBLE.
SO WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO WRITE THIS?
JASON: THERE WERE A FEW THINGS.
PART OF OUR PASSION IS WE WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THE BIBLE
IN HIGH DEFINITION.
IT'S THAT KIND OF ROAD TO EXPERIENCE.
WE LOVE TAKING PEOPLE TO ISRAEL.
AND WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TAKING PEOPLE TO ISRAEL
AND THEY SAW HOW IT ALL CONNECTED TOGETHER,
THEY HAD THAT ROAD TO A MOMENT WHERE JESUS AFTER
HIS RESURRECTION SECRETLY WALKING WITH HIS
DISCIPLES, THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE WHO HE IS,
HE'S HIDDEN AS HE'S WALKING WITH THEM,
AND HE OPENS UP THE LAW, THE PROPHETS AND THE
WRITINGS, AND HE SHOWS HOW ALL THESE THINGS POINT TO HIM.
AND WHEN THEIR EYES ARE OPENED AFTER HE BREAKS THE
BREAD AND HE SAID, "DID OUR HEARTS NOT BURN WITHIN US?"
AND THERE'S SOMETHING, A SENSE OF WONDER AND A
SENSE OF AWE WHEN WE UNDERSTAND HOW THE WHOLE
STORY TIES TOGETHER IN A POWERFUL WAY.
REBECCA: THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF MY
FAVORITE STORIES IN THE BIBLE AND HOW HE WALKS
THEM THROUGH ALL THE SCRIPTURES AND HE SHOWS
HIM WHO HE IS, AND THEN RIGHT IN THAT MOMENT,
THEY REALIZE IT'S HIM.
AND DOESN'T HE DISAPPEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
AND THEN THEY SAY, DID OUR HEARTS NOT BURN WITH THIS?
BECAUSE IT RESONATED WITHIN THEIR SPIRIT THAT
THIS WAS THE TRUTH.
WHEN I THINK GENTILES READ THE OLD TESTAMENT,
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE
HEBREW ROOTS AND EVEN THAT EASTERN MINDSET BECAUSE WE
THINK IN THE WEST, IT'S AN EVEN DIFFERENT WAY OF
THINKING, BUT WE'LL SEE THESE THINGS AND WE'LL
THINK, OH, IT'S SO RANDOM OR IT'S SO PARTICULAR.
BUT EVERYTHING ACTUALLY HAS A REASON,
AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEAUTIFUL.
EVERYTHING IN THE TABERNACLE,
EVERY PIECE OF FURNITURE, THE NUMBERS.
THERE'S THIS HUGE DEPTH OF MEANING,
AND PEOPLE ARE MISSING OUT ON IT.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS BOOK IS PERFECT.
JASON: YEAH.
AND WE WALK THROUGH SYSTEMATICALLY FROM
CREATION THROUGH THE PATRIARCHS THROUGH THE
PASSOVER TO DAVID, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO DO, WALK PEOPLE THROUGH IT.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK THE FIRST CHAPTER WE TALK ABOUT CREATION.
BUT CREATION WAS FOR THE SAKE OF REDEMPTION.
GOD CREATED US BECAUSE HE WANTED THAT CONNECTION AND
HE WANTS US TO HAVE THAT CONNECTION.
AND ALONG THOSE LINES, THERE'S A WONDERFUL VERSE
THAT SAYS, "IT'S THE GLORY OF GOD TO CONCEAL A
MATTER, AND IT'S THE GLORY OF A KING TO SEARCH IT OUT."
AND I THINK WE'RE CALLED TO BE CHILDREN OF THE KING.
SO WE'RE CALLED TO SEARCH OUT THESE THINGS AND
UNDERSTAND THE DEEPER CONNECTIONS THAT'S PART OF
THE INTIMACY WITH GOD THAT HE WANTS TO BRING ABOUT
IN OUR LIVES.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO TRUE. AND IT'S LIKE A TREASURE, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GET IT
IT'S SO PRICELESS AND IT'LL FOREVER EVEN CHANGE
THE WAY YOU SEE THINGS, AND I THINK AS YOU KEEP
GOING NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN IN YOUR FAITH,
YOU NEVER STOP LEARNING.
THERE'S SO MUCH MORE TO GOD, AND HE'S INFINITE,
SO YOU'LL NEVER RUN OUT OF THINGS TO LEARN ABOUT HIM.
THAT'S WHY IT SAYS IN HEAVEN THAT THE ANGELS ARE
ALWAYS CRYING OUT, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY,
BECAUSE GOD CONTINUES TO REVEAL HIMSELF,
AND THAT'S THE NATURAL RESPONSE.
JASON: YEAH, AND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IT MEANS
THERE'S THINGS THAT ANGELS LONG TO LOOK INTO.
THESE ARE MYSTERIES EVEN THE ANGELS LONG TO LOOK INTO,
THE GOSPEL AND THESE SORTS OF PROMISES.
YEAH, SO I THINK IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE AND IT'S A
BLESSING THAT GOD GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN
AND GROW AND SHARE AND EXPRESS THESE SORTS OF THINGS.
REBECCA: SO LET'S START WITH CREATION.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MYSTERIES REVEALED IN
THAT BEGINNING EVENT?
JASON: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS POWERFUL IS THAT
THE VERY FIRST WORD OF GENESIS CHAPTER 1 IN
HEBREW, BERESH ÍT, IN THE BEGINNING IN ENGLISH,
IS THAT WORD CAN BE READ "IN THE BEGINNING" OR IT
CAN BE READ LITERALLY IN HEBREW.
"BE" CAN MEAN "ON ACCOUNT OF",
AND THE "RESH ÍT" CAN MEAN "THE FIRSTBORN".
SO GENESIS 1:1 CAN BE READ,
"ON ACCOUNT OF THE FIRSTBORN,
GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH."
WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, ON THE ACCOUNT OF THE FIRSTBORN?
WELL, WHAT THAT MEANS FROM A JEWISH PERSPECTIVE IS
THAT IT WAS ONLY ON ACCOUNT OF THE MESSIAH
THAT GOD CREATED THE WORLD.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
JASON: AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS GOD
SAW, HE KNOWS THE BEGINNING FROM THE END,
HE SAW THAT MAN WOULD SIN.
AND SO GOD WENT TO THE MESSIAH,
THIS IS JEWISH THOUGHT, AND SAID,
WOULD YOU SUFFER AND DIE OR ELSE I'M NOT GOING TO
CREATE THE WORLD?
AND JEWISH JESUS SAYS, THE MESSIAH SAYS, YES,
I AGREE TO SUFFER AND DIE.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION IS
TALKING ABOUT, HE'S THE LAMB SLAIN BEFORE THE
FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, BECAUSE GOD CREATES THE
CURE AND THE ANTIDOTE BEFORE THE SICKNESS EVER COMES ABOUT.
REBECCA: YEAH. AND THERE'S THAT VERSE IN EPHESIANS WHERE IT SAYS,
"HE CHOSE US IN HIM BEFORE" -- I THINK,
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS --
JASON: FOUNDATIONS.
REBECCA: YES.
AND SO THERE'S EVEN -- THERE WAS THAT PLAN OF
REDEMPTION WAS ALWAYS THERE.
GOD ALWAYS HAD THAT PLAN TO REDEEM US BACK TO HIM,
WHICH IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL THOUGHT AND ALSO BRINGS
SO MUCH PEACE.
ETERNITY WILL BE FOREVER WITH HIM.
THERE WILL BE AN END TO THIS LIFE,
THIS TEMPORARY EARTH THAT WE'RE LIVING ON IN THAT
THERE'S SOMETHING MUCH GREATER COMING.
AND SO THERE'S HOPE IN THAT EVEN, AS WELL.
JASON: YEAH.
AND I THINK THAT'S EVEN THERE IN THE FIRST LETTER
OF THE HEBREW BIBLE, AND IT SAYS, BERESH ÍT, WHICH,
AS WE SAID, MEANS "IN THE BEGINNING",
BUT THE BEGINNING IMPLIES THE END.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
JASON: AND SO IN A SENSE,
THE BEGINNING IS PREGNANT WITH THE END.
AND SO FROM THE VERY BEGINNING,
GOD ALWAYS HAD THE END IN MIND.
AND SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.
WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE END IN MIND,
NO MATTER WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING THROUGH IN OUR LIFE,
WE HAVE TO LIVE IN LIGHT OF KNOWING ONE DAY WE'RE
GOING TO STAND BEFORE THE LORD.
REBECCA: I KNOW.
AND EVER SINCE THAT MY FATHER HAS GONE TO HEAVEN,
IT'S REALLY SHIFTED MY PERSPECTIVE TOWARDS
ETERNITY AND UNDERSTANDING,
BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE LIVE ON THIS EARTH,
WE GET SO CAUGHT UP IN THE DAY-TO-DAY THINGS,
AND IT'S LIKE, OF COURSE WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
THOSE THINGS, BUT WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH
AN INTERNAL PERSPECTIVE.
BUT IT NEVER BECOMES MORE OBVIOUS UNTIL SOMEONE
WHO'S LIKE YOUR HOME, WHO FEELS LIKE HOME TO YOU,
GOES ON TO BE TO HEAVEN, AND THEN YOU REALIZE,
OH, WOW, THIS EARTH IS NOT MY HOME,
AND THEN YOU START REALIZING WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND SO WE DO NEED TO KEEP THESE THINGS IN MIND AS
WE'RE LIVING OUT THE DAY TO DAY AND NOT GET DROWNED
DOWN IN THE SMALL DETAILS OF THIS LIFE,
BECAUSE GOD HAS ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN HIS HAND
AND WE HAVE TO LIVE, LIKE YOU SAID,
WITH THE END IN MIND.
SO I LOVE THAT.
JASON: YEAH.
AND WITH CREATION, OBVIOUSLY,
ONE OF THE MAJOR EVENTS IS SHORTLY BEFORE GOD CREATED
THE WORLD, YOU HAVE THE FALL.
THE MAN AND WOMAN TAKE FROM THE TREE.
AND AS A RESULT OF TAKING FROM THE TREE,
SIN AND SICKNESS AND DEATH UNTO THE WORLD,
BUT THE TREE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN THAT WAS
ULTIMATELY MEANT TO POINT TO JESUS,
WHO DIES ON A CROSS, WHICH IS A TREE.
SO WE STOLE FROM THE TREE, BUT GOD PUTS BACK ON THE
TREE JESUS FOR YOU AND ME TO REVERSE THE CURSE AND
RESTORE THE BLESSING.
AND THE INTERESTING THING THERE IS THAT THE WORD FOR
"TREE" IN HEBREW, HA' ÉTS, HAS THE SAME NUMERICAL VALUE
OF CURSE IN HEBREW.
BECAUSE A TREE BROUGHT THE CURSE,
BUT IT WAS BY MEANS OF A TREE THAT THE CURSE WAS
BROKEN IN OUR LIFE, AS WELL.
REBECCA: LIKE JESUS BEING --
JASON: THE SECOND ADAM.
REBECCA: THE SECOND ADAM, YEAH.
IT'S LIKE THROUGH, BECAUSE THROUGH ONE MAN,
THAT THE CURSE CAME THROUGH ONE MAN, REDEMPTION COULD COME.
THANK GOODNESS.
[ LAUGHING ] BECAUSE WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT,
AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.
JASON: NO, AND IT'S POWERFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE
FOUR NEGATIVE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THE FALL.
I THINK THE FALL CAN BE SUMMARIZED IN ONE WORD,
IT'S EXILE, WHICH IS DISCONNECTION AND DISTANCE.
WE HAD SPIRITUAL EXILE, WE HAD EMOTIONAL EXILE,
WE HAD RELATIONAL EXILE, MAN AND WOMAN'S
RELATIONSHIP, THE FAMILY DYNAMICS,
THE FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER, CAIN KILLS ABEL,
AND PHYSICAL EXILE, WHICH IS DEATH.
AND WHEN JESUS, YESHUA, DIED ON THE CROSS, RIGHT,
HE CELEBRATES THE PASSOVER WITH HIS DISCIPLES,
THERE'S FOUR CUPS OF REDEMPTION.
IT POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THE MESSIAH CAME TO UNDO
THOSE FOUR ASPECTS OF EXILE.
SO WHEN JESUS DIES ON THE CROSS, OKAY, HE DIES,
FIRST OF ALL, TO UNDO SPIRITUAL EXILE, RIGHT.
WHEN HE DIES ON THE CROSS, HE CRIES OUT, "MY GOD,
MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"
HE'S DEALING WITH THE EMOTIONAL ASPECT OF EXILE,
OUR FEELINGS OF DISCONNECTION FROM GOD OR
DISCONNECTION FROM OURSELVES,
ALL THE FEAR AND ANXIETY THAT WE WRESTLE WITH IN OUR LIFE.
HE TURNS TO THE THIEF ON THE CROSS AND HE SAYS,
"FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO."
HE'S DEALING WITH RELATIONAL EXILE.
AND THEN HE HAS THE CROWN OF THORNS ON HIS HEAD,
WHICH IS THE SIGN OF THE CURSE OF CREATION,
THE GROUND PRODUCES THORNS AND THISTLES.
HE'S DEALING WITH PHYSICAL EXILE.
SO JESUS' DEATH ON THE CROSS COMES TO BRING
SPIRITUAL LIFE AND WHOLENESS,
IT COMES TO BRING EMOTIONAL LIFE AND
WHOLENESS, IT COMES TO BRING RELATIONAL LIFE AND
WHOLENESS, AND IT COMES TO BRING PHYSICAL LIFE AND
WHOLENESS BECAUSE OF WHAT HE'S DONE AS THE GREATER
ADAM ON THE CROSS.
REBECCA: AND LIKE YOU SAID,
THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT ASPECTS,
LIKE THESE EXILES THAT WE SUFFERED,
BUT HE'S COME TO RESTORE ALL OF THEM.
AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT HE WENT THROUGH.
EVERYTHING HAS A PURPOSE, AND I LOVE THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT IS YOU SAID WE HAD A
PURPOSE BEFORE THE FALL AND A PURPOSE AFTER THE
PALL -- FALL, SORRY.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
JASON: YEAH.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT IT'S
ACTUALLY A -- PEOPLE MISTRANSLATE FROM THE
HEBREW WHY GOD CREATED MAN.
THEY THINK WE WERE PUT IN EDEN TO BE GARDENERS,
THEY TEND TO THINK THAT GOD PUT MAN AND WOMAN TO
TEND IT AND TO TILL IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
THE TRANSLATION.
BUT THE HEBREW ACTUALLY SAYS TO WORSHIP AND OBEY.
REBECCA: REALLY?
JASON: BECAUSE THE SAME WORD FOR "WORK" IS THE
SAME WORD FOR "WORSHIP" IN HEBREW.
AND I THINK THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WORK
AND WORSHIP IS WHO YOU'RE DOING IT FOR.
AVOD Á CAN MEAN "WORSHIP" OR AVOD Á CAN MEAN "WORK".
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS. JASON: SO YOU CAN TRANSLATE IT AS "WORSHIP"
OR YOU CAN TRANSLATE IT AS "WORK",
BUT THERE WAS NO WORK BEFORE THE FALL.
WORK IS THE RESULT OF THE FALL.
IT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE THE FALL.
MAN AND WOMAN WERE CREATED TO BE WORSHIPERS OF GOD,
WERE CREATED TO BE A PRIESTHOOD.
AND THE GARDEN OF EDEN WAS MEANT TO BE A TABERNACLE.
REBECCA: THAT MAKES WAY MORE SENSE.
JASON: AND THAT'S WHY WHEN GOD COMES OUT OF
MOUNT SINAI, HE SAYS TO ISRAEL,
"YOU ARE TO BE OF ROYAL PRIESTHOOD,
AND A HOLY NATION," HE'S RESTORING THE ORIGINAL MANDATE
TO HUMANITY.
IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, PETER SAYS,
WE'VE ALL BECOME PART OF HIS ROYAL PRIESTHOOD
AND HOLY NATION.
REBECCA: SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PASSOVER IN THAT
PASSOVER HAPPENS BEFORE.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MYSTERIES CONNECTED TO THAT?
JASON: YEAH.
THERE'S A LOT OF --
REBECCA: THERE'S SO MUCH, ACTUALLY.
JASON: THERE'S SO MUCH THERE.
REBECCA: THERE'S GOING TO BE AN HOUR-AND-A-HALF TEACHING.
JASON: [ LAUGHING ] THE KEY THING HERE TO
UNDERSTAND IS THAT EVERY MAJOR EVENT IN THE LIFE OF
JESUS, YESHUA, HAPPENED ON A JEWISH HOLIDAY.
HE -- THE LAST SUPPER WAS A PASSOVER SEDER.
SO YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE LAST SUPPER,
YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS IF YOU
DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF PASSOVER.
SO LIKE ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS AT PASSOVER THAT WE
TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK IS THAT IT'S THE FEAST OF
UNLEAVENED BREAD.
AND YOU EAT THE MATZAH.
REBECCA: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
[ LAUGHING ]
JASON: RIGHT.
SO WHEN GOD BROUGHT ISRAEL OUT OF EGYPT,
THEY CAME OUT SO QUICKLY THAT THEIR BREAD DID NOT
HAVE TIME TO RISE, SO THEY ATE UNLEAVENED BREAD.
AND SO IT'S A SYMBOL OF REDEMPTION,
OF THE SPEEDY REDEMPTION THAT GOD BROUGHT.
SO AS A REMINDER OF THAT REDEMPTION TO THIS DAY,
THE JEWISH PEOPLE EAT MATZAH DURING THE DAYS OF PASSOVER.
AND WE HAVE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A PASSOVER SEDER,
AND AT THE SEDER, WE REENACT THE STORY OF EGYPT
AND PASS ON THAT STORY TO THE NEXT GENERATION BY
HAVING THIS RITUAL MEAL TOGETHER.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS AT THAT MEAL IS THE
UNLEAVENED BREAD, THE MATZAH.
WELL, THE AMAZING THING ABOUT THE MATZAH,
THE MATZAH POINTS TO THE MESSIAH.
BECAUSE THINK ABOUT IT, THE MATZAH'S UNLEAVENED.
IN THE BIBLE, LEAVEN IS A PITCHER OF SIN.
BEWARE OF THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES.
A LITTLE LEAVEN, LEAVEN'S THE WHOLE LUMP OF DOUGH.
SO THE BREAD IS SINLESS.
LITERALLY, THE MATZAH IS STRIPED AND BRUISED.
REBECCA: AND PIERCED.
JASON: AND PIERCED.
AND AT ONE POINT WE BREAK THE MATZAH,
IT'S ISAIAH 53: "PIERCED FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS;
CRUSHED FOR OUR INIQUITIES; BY HIS STRIPES WE'RE HEALED." WE TAKE THE PIECE
OF MATZAH, WE BREAK IT IN HALF,
PART OF IT WE WRAP IN A WHITE LINEN CLOTH,
WE BURY IT, THE KIDS HAVE TO SEARCH FOR IT LATER,
AND AT THE END, WE EAT IT.
IT'S A PICTURE OF THE DEATH, BURIAL,
AND RESURRECTION OF THE MESSIAH.
SO IT'S SO POWERFUL.
AND THEN THERE WERE FOUR CUPS AT THE PASSOVER SEDER.
THE THIRD CUP IS THE CUP OF REDEMPTION.
IT POINTS TO THE THREE SPRINKLINGS OF THE BLOOD
OF THE PASSOVER LAMB ON THE DOORPOST OF THE HOUSE.
THAT'S THE CUP JESUS RAISED,
IS THE CUP OF REDEMPTION.
IT SAYS, "THIS IS MY BLOOD,
POURED OUT FOR YOU FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS."
SO UNDERSTAND THERE'S THREE SPRINKLINGS OF THE BLOOD
ON THE DOORPOST OF THE HOUSE.
JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED AT THE THIRD HOUR.
THERE WERE THREE CROSSES.
HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE THIRD DAY.
ALL THIS IS POINTING TO HIM AS THE GREATER
PASSOVER LAMB WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD.
REBECCA: WHAT IS THE CONNECTION WITH THE FIRSTFRUITS?
JASON: SO HE DIES ON PASSOVER IN FULFILLMENT OF
THE PASSOVER LAMB, BECAUSE GOD SAYS,
"WHEN I SEE THE BLOOD ON THE DOORPOST OF YOUR HOUSE,"
IN THE DAYS OF THE ISRAELITES IN EGYPT --
" I WILL PASS OVER." SO WE HAVE TO APPLY HIS BLOOD TO
OUR LIFE BY FAITH, AND WHEN WE DO,
JUDGMENT PASSES OVER US AND GOD REDEEMS US.
WE DON'T DIE.
WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
ON THE SECOND DAY OF PASSOVER,
THERE'S ANOTHER HOLIDAY CALLED YOM BIKKURIM, OR FIRSTFRUITS.
AND THAT WAS THE DAY IN WHICH IT WAS THE BEGINNING
OF THE HARVEST IN ISRAEL, IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF
WHAT WAS THE BARLEY HARVEST.
AND SO THE PRIESTS WOULD GO DOWN,
THEY WOULD CUT SOME OF THE FIRSTFRUITS,
AND THEY WOULD DO A WAVE OFFERING BEFORE THE LORD.
AND A GOOD FIRSTFRUITS WAS THE SIGN OF A LATER
GREATER HARVEST, WHICH CULMINATES AT PENTECOST, RIGHT?
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
JASON: THE KEY THING HERE IS THAT THAT'S THE
DAY JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE DAY OF FIRSTFRUITS.
REBECCA: HE WAS THE FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING.
JASON: YES, BECAUSE THE NEW TESTAMENT TELLS US,
PAUL TELLS US, "HE IS THE FIRSTFRUITS FROM AMONG THE
DEAD." BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THE GOOD FIRSTFRUITS,
IT'S THE GUARANTEE OF THE LATER HARVEST BECAUSE HE
ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
IT'S THE GUARANTEE WE'RE GOING TO RISE FROM THE
DEAD ONE DAY, AS WELL.
REBECCA: SO MANY GENTILES,
THEY DON'T KNOW THAT COMMUNION THAT WE
CELEBRATE, WE CONTINUE TO DO,
IT'S THE SACRAMENT OR WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO
DESCRIBE IT AS, FOR SOMETHING WE CONTINUE TO
DO TO THIS DAY THAT WHEN JESUS WAS DOING IT,
IT WAS AT A SEDER, AND HE WAS ACTUALLY,
LIKE YOU SAID, SPEAKING OF THAT CUP,
AND THAT WHOLE THING THAT HE WAS DOING WAS AT A SEDER.
IT WASN'T THE LAST -- IT WAS THE LAST SUPPER,
BUT IT WAS MORE THAN THAT, IT WAS PASSOVER,
AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.
WE DON'T EVEN MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
JASON: YEAH.
SO EVERY TIME WE DO THE LORD'S SUPPER --
REBECCA: SO THAT WAS MATZAH?
JASON: YEAH, THAT WAS MATZAH.
REBECCA: SO IT WASN'T BREAD BREAD.
[ LAUGHING ]
JASON: DA VINCI'S PICTURE WITH THE
FLUFFY LOAVES OF WHITE BREAD IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.
THIS IS PART OF THE TAKING IT OUT OF CONTEXT.
IF YOU NOTICE IN DA VINCI'S FAMOUS PICTURE,
THE LAST SUPPER, WHAT ARE THEY EATING FOR THE MAIN COURSE?
THEY'RE EATING FISH BECAUSE HE WAS A NICE
CATHOLIC BOY AND THEY EAT FISH AT LENT.
BUT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN EATING THE PASSOVER LAMB.
REBECCA: YEAH.
WHICH IS WHO HE IS.
JASON: THAT'S JUST WHO HE IS.
IT ALL POINTS TO HIM.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
SO IT WAS MATZAH.
WELL, HEY, THE LITTLE WAFERS IN CHURCH, THEY'RE PRETTY THIN.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MATZAH,
BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
SO IT'S NEVER A BIG FLUFFY LOAF OF BREAD.
THAT'S JUST MIND BLOWING.
AND YOU WOULD LEAN ON EACH OTHER OR YOU WOULD RELAX
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE'RE NO LONGER SLAVES,
SO IT EVEN GIVES CONTEXT TO JOHN WHEN HE'S LAYING
ON JESUS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO AT PASSOVER,
YOU'RE LOUNGING.
SO THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT GIVE CONTEXT AND
DEPTH AND UNDERSTANDING AND BALANCE.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT COME WHEN YOU
UNDERSTAND THESE MYSTERIES.
I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHAT IS SECOND PASSOVER?
BECAUSE I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS.
JASON: YEAH, IT IS MENTIONED IN THE
SCRIPTURE, IT'S CALLED PESACH SHENI,
AND BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IS THAT TO EAT OF THE PASSOVER
WHEN THE TEMPLE STOOD OR WHEN THE
TABERNACLE WAS, YOU HAD TO BE IN A STATE OF RITUAL PURITY.
SO IF YOU HAD TOUCHED A DEAD BODY, FOR EXAMPLE,
OR SOMEONE DIED IN YOUR TENT OR IN YOUR HOUSE,
RIGHT, YOU BECOME RITUALLY UNCLEAN,
AND THEREFORE YOU COULD NOT OFFER THE PASSOVER SACRIFICE
OR EAT OF THE PASSOVER SACRIFICE.
NOT TO GET INTO IT TOO DEEP,
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THE TABERNACLE WAS A NEW EDEN.
THE TEMPLE WAS A NEW EDEN.
AND ANYTHING THAT MADE YOU UNCLEAN HAD A CONNECTION
TO THE FALL.
ANYTHING THAT WAS A REMINDER OF THE DEATH AND
THE CURSE AND THE FALL IN SOME WAY MADE YOU UNCLEAN.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, A WOMAN DURING HER CYCLE BECOMES UNCLEAN, WHY?
BECAUSE IT'S A LOSS OF LIFE.
TOUCHING A DEAD BODY IS THE ULTIMATE SIGN OF THE
CURSE IS DEATH, RIGHT.
IT'S THE REASON WHY IF YOU HAD CERTAIN DEFORMITIES
YOU COULDN'T BE A PRIEST IN THE TEMPLE BECAUSE IT'S
A REMINDER, IT'S NOT BECAUSE GOD IS AGAINST
PEOPLE WITH HANDICAPS, BUT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A
REMINDER OF THE FALL.
AND THE TABERNACLE WAS THE NEW EDEN,
THERE WAS THE CHERUBIM, THERE WAS THE PRESENCE OF
GOD, THERE WAS ALL OF THAT.
AND SO IF YOU WERE IN A STATE OF BEING UNCLEAN,
YOU COULDN'T EAT OF THE PASSOVER,
WHICH WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE
COVENANT AND NATIONAL CELEBRATION.
SO GOD IN HIS GOODNESS AND HIS GRACE SAID, IF YOU,
FOR SOME REASON, COULDN'T CELEBRATE THE FIRST
PASSOVER BECAUSE YOU WERE UNCLEAN OR THERE'S
SOMETHING ELSE THAT KEPT YOU FROM DOING IT,
ONE MONTH LATER THERE'S WHAT'S KNOWN AS PESACH SHENI,
AND YOU CAN THEN BE PREPARED TO CELEBRATE IT
WITH YOUR FAMILY, BECAUSE THAT'S GOD'S GRACE AND HIS
GOODNESS TO US.
HE'S ALWAYS GIVING US ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IF FOR
SOMEHOW WE MISS OUT ON THE FIRST ONE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED AS WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THE SECOND PASSOVER AND PASSOVER IS YOU
MENTIONED THE RECLINING AT THE TABLE.
AND PART OF THE REASON WHY WE RECLINE IS BECAUSE WHEN
WE WERE SLAVES IN EGYPT, WE HAD TO EAT STANDING AT
THE BECK AND CALL OF OUR MASTERS.
AND IN ANCIENT TIMES, FREE PEOPLE RECLINED WHEN THEY EAT.
SO WE RECLINED TO REMIND US THAT WE ARE FREE.
WE'RE NO LONGER SLAVES IN EGYPT.
BUT PRACTICALLY IT REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING THAT THE LORD
SPOKE TO ME AND THAT HAS CHANGED MY LIFE,
AND THAT IS ONE DAY I WAS HAVING MY TIME WITH THE LORD
AND HE SAID TO ME, JASON,
YOU'RE MY FAVORITE SON.
AND HE SAID, WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE,
I WANT YOU TO TELL PEOPLE YOU'RE MY FAVORITE SON.
IT'S LIKE, LORD, I CAN'T DO THAT.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO STONE ME AND THEY'RE
GOING TO THINK I'M PRIDEFUL.
[ LAUGHING ] HE SAID, BUT JASON, HE GOES,
YOU HAVE TWO SONS.
HE GOES, WHICH ONE DO YOU LOVE MORE?
AND I SAID, MAN, RIGHT, I LOVE THEM BOTH,
I DON'T LOVE ONE MORE THAN THE OTHER.
THEY'RE BOTH SPECIAL AND I LOVE THEM BOTH IN THEIR OWN WAY.
AND HE SAID, JASON, I'M A FATHER AND YOU'RE A
FATHER, BUT I'M NOT A FATHER LIKE YOU'RE A FATHER.
HE GOES, I'M THE INFINITE FATHER.
AND AS THE INFINITE FATHER,
I CAN HAVE AN INFINITE NUMBER OF NUMBER ONE SONS AND DAUGHTERS.
AND THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE
YOU'RE MY FAVORITE ONE IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T BELIEVE
THAT I COULD LOVE YOU ENOUGH THAT I COULD SEE
YOU AS MY FAVORITE.
SO YOU GO OUT THERE AND TELL PEOPLE.
AND WHAT I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE IS THAT WHAT
YESHUA DOES FOR US AS THE PASSOVER LAMB IS HE MAKES US
CHILDREN OF THE KING.
FOR AS MANY AS BELIEVED, JOHN TELLS US,
TO THEM HE GAVE THE RIGHT, THE AUTHORITY,
TO BECOME THE CHILDREN OF GOD.
IDENTITY IS DESTINY.
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ON THE BASIS OF WHAT HE
DID FOR US, YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL HAVE BECOME
GOD'S NUMBER ONE IN THE SUN.
REBECCA: THAT IS SO WILD.
WHY DO YOU THINK, BECAUSE THERE'S ALL OF THESE
PROPHECIES THAT ARE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC IN THE
OLD TESTAMENT AND THEN WE KNOW THAT JESUS FULFILLED THEM,
HOW DO YOU -- WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY JEWISH PEOPLE
DON'T SEE IT?
JASON: YEAH.
AND EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO THAT,
I THINK THERE'S EVEN MORE.
EVEN IN JEWISH TRADITION, RIGHT,
AND AGAIN WE TALK ABOUT YOM KIPPUR IN THIS BOOK A
LITTLE BIT, THE DAY OF ATONEMENT,
HOW JESUS FULFILLED IT, THE CRAZY THING ABOUT THAT
IS THAT THERE WAS A RED CORD ON THE DAY OF ATONEMENT.
PART OF THAT RED CORD WOULD BE TIED TO THE HORNS
OF THE SCAPEGOAT, PART WOULD BE IN THE TEMPLE.
WHEN THE SCAPEGOAT THAT BORE THE SINS OF THE
PEOPLE DIED, THE CRIMSON CORD IN THE TEMPLE WOULD
SUPERNATURALLY TURN FROM RED TO WHITE,
SHOWING THAT THOUGH YOUR SINS BE LIKE SCARLET RED,
I WILL MAKE THEM WHITE AS SNOW.
REBECCA: REALLY?
JASON: AND THE RABBIS SAY FORTY YEARS BEFORE THE
DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE, THAT CORD STOPPED TURNING
FROM RED TO WHITE.
AND THEY KNEW GOD WAS NOT HAPPY.
WELL, THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED IN 70 A.D.,
JESUS DIED APPROXIMATELY 30 A.D., DEPENDING ON HOW
YOU CALCULATE IT, BUT BETWEEN 30 AND 33.
SO WHEN THE TIME OF THE LIFE AND MINISTRY OF
JESUS, THE CRIMSON CORD STOPPED TURNING BECAUSE IT
WASN'T GOING TO BE BY THE BLOOD OF GOATS OR BULLS
AND LAMBS BUT OF THE MESSIAH.
REBECCA: AND THAT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT YOU SAID
OUR ORIGINAL PURPOSE, IT WASN'T TO BE GARDENERS,
PER SE, IT WAS TO WORSHIP AND OBEY.
AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
SACRIFICE OF ANIMALS, IT MAKES ME THINK OF THAT
PASSAGE WHERE, I'M PRETTY SURE SAMUEL SAYS IT TO
SAUL, WHERE HE SAYS, "OBEDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE."
JASON: ABSOLUTELY.
REBECCA: BUT WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY JEWISH PEOPLE
TODAY DON'T SEE IT?
BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT TALKED ABOUT, OR...?
JASON: OH, I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS.
I THINK, NUMBER ONE, IT HAS TO DO WITH GOD'S PLAN AND DESIGN.
RIGHT.
GOD SAYS THAT IF THE JEWISH PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
ACCEPTED HIM FULLY, HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE MESSIAH.
BECAUSE ISAIAH 53, HAD TO BE REJECTED.
JUST LIKE JOSEPH WAS REJECTED BY HIS BROTHERS.
REBECCA: AND THIS IS ONE OF THESE YOU TALK ABOUT
IN THE BOOK, ACTUALLY.
JASON: YEAH, MESSIAH HAD TO BE REJECTED.
AND PAUL TALKS ABOUT THIS IN ROMANS.
HE SAID THERE'S A PARTIAL BLINDNESS UPON
THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
THERE'S A PARTIAL HARDENING OF THE HEART.
IT'S NOT COMPLETE BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOUR
HUSBAND, JONATHAN, WHO I LOVE AND IS AWESOME,
BIG SHOUT-OUT TO JONATHAN, WE'RE JEWISH BELIEVERS,
SO WE'RE PROOF THAT IT'S A PARTIAL,
THAT THERE'S A REMNANT OF JEWS WHO BELIEVE.
SO GOD HAS NOT REJECTED HIS PEOPLE,
BUT THERE'S A REMNANT.
BUT ONE DAY, ALL ISRAEL WILL BELIEVE THAT YESHUA
IS THE MESSIAH.
THOSE WHO ARE ALIVE AT HIS SECOND COMING.
SO PART OF IT IS PART OF THE PLAN,
THERE'S A SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS SO THAT
SALVATION CAN GO TO THE GENTILES.
BUT THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER TWO PRACTICAL PARTS OF IT,
WHICH IS THAT, UNFORTUNATELY,
JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
REBECCA: FOR SO LONG.
JASON: FOR A LONG TIME.
REBECCA: REALLY BAD HISTORY.
JASON: SINCE THE EARLY CHURCH.
REBECCA: YEAH.
JASON: SINCE ABOUT 300, 400 A.D.
AND SO THEY'RE LIKE HOW CAN WE BELIEVE IN A JESUS
IN WHOSE NAME WE'VE BEEN PERSECUTED,
BECAUSE HITLER INFILTRATED THE LUTHERAN CHURCH AND
USED SOME OF THE TEACHINGS OF MARTIN LUTHER TO
JUSTIFY THE GENOCIDE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
THAT'S ONE PART OF IT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED GENTILES WHO LOVE THE
JEWISH PEOPLE, LIKE YOU ALL AT DAYSTAR,
AND HOW YOU BLESS ISRAEL AND LOVE ISRAEL,
AND THAT WAS A BIG PART OF YOUR DAD'S HEART AND WAS
PART OF THE BIG LEGACY OF THAT THAT HE'S LEFT TO THE
WORLD AND TO THE BODY OF THE MESSIAH.
AND ANOTHER PART OF IT, THOUGH, IS THEY SAY, WELL,
YOU CAN'T BE JEWISH AND BELIEVE IN JESUS,
BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THEY
LOOK AT HOW THE CHURCH HAS INTERPRETED IT AND THEY'RE
LIKE, OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS,
YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP ANYTHING JEWISH,
AND HISTORICALLY, THE CHURCH ACTUALLY MADE
JEWISH BELIEVERS LITERALLY CHANGE THEIR HEBREW NAMES,
NOT CELEBRATE ANY OF THE HOLIDAYS,
NOT -- BECAUSE THEY ACCUSED THEM OF BEING
JUDAIZERS IF THEY DID.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE NEED JEWISH BELIEVERS,
AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THE CHURCH EMBRACES
JERUSALEM TRUTH SO THEY'LL KNOW.
THIS IS BIBLICAL.
YOU CAN BE JEWISH AND BELIEVE.
REBECCA: HEY, THANKS FOR WATCHING.
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