WEBVTT 00:00:00.166 --> 00:00:07.140 align:center line:85% position:50% size:05% ♪♪ 00:00:07.207 --> 00:00:08.041 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% REBECCA: HEY, GUYS. 00:00:08.108 --> 00:00:09.676 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF 00:00:09.743 --> 00:00:10.944 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% ON AIR WITH REBECCA. 00:00:11.010 --> 00:00:13.113 align:center line:74% position:50% size:63% OKAY, SO I'M VERY EXCITED 00:00:13.179 --> 00:00:15.348 align:center line:69% position:50% size:55% AND HONORED TO HAVE TODAY'S GUEST WITH US. 00:00:15.415 --> 00:00:17.183 align:center line:69% position:50% size:48% HE'S A FORMER HIGH-RANKING LEADER 00:00:17.250 --> 00:00:18.852 align:center line:74% position:50% size:60% IN THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT. 00:00:18.918 --> 00:00:21.721 align:center line:69% position:50% size:70% AND HE'S THE FOUNDER OF KINGDOM BUSINESS MINISTRIES. 00:00:21.788 --> 00:00:24.491 align:center line:69% position:50% size:58% AND TODAY HE'S GONNA BE SHARING HIS TESTIMONY 00:00:24.557 --> 00:00:27.026 align:center line:69% position:50% size:53% ABOUT BEING RAISED IN THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT, 00:00:27.093 --> 00:00:28.261 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% RISING UP THROUGH THE RANKS, 00:00:28.328 --> 00:00:30.096 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% BECOMING A PROMINENT LEADER, 00:00:30.163 --> 00:00:31.965 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% ONLY FOR JESUS TO REVEAL HIMSELF 00:00:32.031 --> 00:00:32.766 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% MIRACULOUSLY TO HIM, 00:00:32.832 --> 00:00:35.468 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND MIRACULOUSLY SAVING HIM. 00:00:35.535 --> 00:00:38.104 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% JOINING US ALL THE WAY FROM CALGARY, CANADA, 00:00:38.171 --> 00:00:41.040 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% WELCOME TO THE SHOW, ALAN STRUDWICK. 00:00:41.107 --> 00:00:43.276 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR. 00:00:43.343 --> 00:00:45.812 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% ALAN: YOU'RE WELCOME. 00:00:45.879 --> 00:00:47.280 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON THE SHOW. 00:00:47.347 --> 00:00:48.381 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. 00:00:48.448 --> 00:00:50.750 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% REBECCA: I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 00:00:50.817 --> 00:00:52.485 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% I, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS, 00:00:52.552 --> 00:00:53.720 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% WE JUST LAUNCHED THIS PODCAST. 00:00:53.787 --> 00:00:54.621 align:center line:85% position:50% size:68% AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS 00:00:54.687 --> 00:00:57.123 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT 00:00:57.190 --> 00:00:58.658 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% WAS THE NEW AGE. 00:00:58.725 --> 00:01:00.026 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% JOHN PAUL JACKSON, 00:01:00.093 --> 00:01:01.795 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% WHO WAS A SPIRITUAL MENTOR IN MY LIFE, 00:01:01.861 --> 00:01:03.196 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% HE WAS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. 00:01:03.263 --> 00:01:04.898 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% HE WAS, YOU KNOW, A PROPHET. 00:01:04.964 --> 00:01:07.934 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND HE SAW HOW SO MANY CHRISTIANS 00:01:08.001 --> 00:01:09.836 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% WERE BEING DECEIVED AND WERE DRAWN 00:01:09.903 --> 00:01:11.604 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% INTO THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT 00:01:11.671 --> 00:01:13.106 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% BECAUSE OF THE SPIRITUAL POWER 00:01:13.173 --> 00:01:16.309 align:center line:79% position:50% size:75% AND HE HAD AN INCREDIBLE MINISTRY OF JUST REACHING OUT, 00:01:16.376 --> 00:01:18.578 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68% GOING TO NEW AGE FESTIVALS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 00:01:18.645 --> 00:01:20.580 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND WHAT'S KIND OF DISCONCERTING 00:01:20.647 --> 00:01:21.915 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND WHY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS, 00:01:21.981 --> 00:01:23.283 align:center line:79% position:50% size:33% IS SO MUCH OF THE NEW AGE 00:01:23.349 --> 00:01:25.985 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% HAS PERMEATED INTO THE CHURCH AND INTO CULTURE. 00:01:26.052 --> 00:01:28.254 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% THAT WE DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND 00:01:28.321 --> 00:01:30.790 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THE ROOTS OF THE DECEPTION BEHIND IT. 00:01:30.857 --> 00:01:33.493 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND IT'S ACTUALLY PERMEATING OUR CHURCHES. 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:36.029 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% SO I THOUGHT NO ONE BETTER TO TALK TO THAN YOU. 00:01:36.095 --> 00:01:37.597 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% SO LET'S START AT THE BEGINNING. 00:01:37.664 --> 00:01:38.565 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% GROWING UP... 00:01:38.631 --> 00:01:39.432 align:center line:85% position:50% size:28% ALAN: OKAY. 00:01:39.499 --> 00:01:41.534 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% REBECCA: TELL US WHERE YOU GREW UP. 00:01:41.601 --> 00:01:42.735 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% AND GIVE US YOUR STORY. 00:01:42.802 --> 00:01:45.538 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% ALAN: OKAY, WELL, I DIDN'T GROW UP ANYTHING 00:01:45.605 --> 00:01:46.673 align:center line:74% position:50% size:53% NEAR A CHRISTIAN HOME 00:01:46.739 --> 00:01:49.008 align:center line:69% position:50% size:43% OR ANY CHRISTIANS THAT, YOU KNOW, 00:01:49.075 --> 00:01:51.411 align:center line:69% position:50% size:50% THAT COULD INFLUENCE ME IN ANY WAY. 00:01:51.478 --> 00:01:53.913 align:center line:69% position:50% size:45% I ACTUALLY, WHEN I WAS 11 YEARS OLD, 00:01:53.980 --> 00:01:56.549 align:center line:69% position:50% size:68% MY PARENTS WERE INTO SPIRITUALISM AND OCCULTISM, 00:01:56.616 --> 00:01:58.551 align:center line:74% position:50% size:53% AND NEW AGE HINDUISM, 00:01:58.618 --> 00:02:00.053 align:center line:74% position:50% size:65% AND A BIG ORDER OF THINGS. 00:02:00.119 --> 00:02:01.888 align:center line:74% position:50% size:45% BUT WHEN I WAS 11, 00:02:01.955 --> 00:02:03.690 align:center line:69% position:50% size:35% I ACTUALLY IN THE SCHOOLYARD 00:02:03.756 --> 00:02:04.390 align:center line:74% position:50% size:43% WENT UNCONSCIOUS, 00:02:04.457 --> 00:02:05.859 align:center line:74% position:50% size:40% BUT HAD A VISION 00:02:05.925 --> 00:02:07.927 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% OF BEING IN THE FUTURE. 00:02:07.994 --> 00:02:09.295 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% YOU KNOW, WEARING BUSINESS SUITS 00:02:09.362 --> 00:02:11.397 align:center line:79% position:50% size:33% AND BEING ALL PROFESSIONAL. 00:02:11.464 --> 00:02:12.999 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% AND THEN THE INTERESTING THING WAS 00:02:13.066 --> 00:02:14.100 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% WHEN I WOKE UP 00:02:14.167 --> 00:02:15.235 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% IN THE PLAYGROUND, 00:02:15.301 --> 00:02:18.771 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% I FELT LIKE I HAD COME BACK INTO MY YOUNGER BODY. 00:02:18.838 --> 00:02:20.874 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% THAT I HAD BEEN -- I HAD ALMOST LIKE, 00:02:20.940 --> 00:02:21.875 align:center line:79% position:50% size:33% I DIDN'T HAVE WORDS FOR IT, 00:02:21.941 --> 00:02:23.243 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% BUT I HAD COME BACK INTO MY BODY. 00:02:23.309 --> 00:02:25.044 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% SO FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS, 00:02:25.111 --> 00:02:27.180 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% I FELT LIKE I WAS THIS 50-YEAR-OLD 00:02:27.247 --> 00:02:28.481 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% IN AN 11-YEAR-OLD BODY. 00:02:28.548 --> 00:02:29.382 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% IT WAS VERY STRANGE, 00:02:29.449 --> 00:02:31.618 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% AND I HAD NO GRID FOR IT. 00:02:31.684 --> 00:02:33.019 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% THEN THE NEXT STEP AFTER THAT, 00:02:33.086 --> 00:02:36.256 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% IS I MOVED IN WITH MY FATHER AT 13. 00:02:36.322 --> 00:02:38.691 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND HE WAS VERY SPIRITUAL, 00:02:38.758 --> 00:02:39.659 align:center line:85% position:50% size:25% AS I SAID. 00:02:39.726 --> 00:02:41.494 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% HE WAS ALSO A VERY RICH MAN. 00:02:41.561 --> 00:02:44.097 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% SO, WHEN WE WERE LIVING IN AUSTRALIA THEN, 00:02:44.163 --> 00:02:47.800 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70% HE WOULD FLY GURUS, PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE, 00:02:47.867 --> 00:02:48.668 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% NEW AGE LEADERS, 00:02:48.735 --> 00:02:51.671 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% INTO AUSTRALIA TO RUN CONFERENCES. 00:02:51.738 --> 00:02:53.072 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND THEN I WOULD GET TO SIT 00:02:53.139 --> 00:02:54.908 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AT THEIR FEET IN OUR LIVING ROOM 00:02:54.974 --> 00:02:56.109 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% AND HEAR THIS WISDOM. 00:02:56.175 --> 00:02:57.911 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT 00:02:57.977 --> 00:03:00.680 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% ONE OF THE GURUS THAT WAS THERE 00:03:00.747 --> 00:03:02.448 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% WHO TOTALLY INTO HINDU FAITH, 00:03:02.515 --> 00:03:05.385 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% HINDU REINCARNATION, EVOLVING YOUR SOUL, 00:03:05.451 --> 00:03:07.320 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% HE GAVE ME AN EXPLANATION. 00:03:07.387 --> 00:03:08.121 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% IT WAS DECEPTION, 00:03:08.187 --> 00:03:09.155 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% BUT HE GAVE ME 00:03:09.222 --> 00:03:10.823 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% THE EXPLANATION OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO ME 00:03:10.890 --> 00:03:12.191 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% WHEN I WAS 11. 00:03:12.258 --> 00:03:13.893 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% THAT I WAS AN EVOLVING SOUL, 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.829 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% AND I HAD A CHANCE GO BACK AND START AGAIN. 00:03:16.896 --> 00:03:18.932 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% IN FACT, THE ENEMY ALWAYS WORKS ON EGO. 00:03:18.998 --> 00:03:20.867 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% AND MY GURU TOLD ME 00:03:20.934 --> 00:03:24.737 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% THAT I HAD BEEN HERE AS A LIFETIME AS MY SOUL 00:03:24.804 --> 00:03:27.540 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% FOR OVER 300,000 LIFETIMES. 00:03:27.607 --> 00:03:30.476 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% SO THAT MEANT LIKE I'M VERY EVOLVED. 00:03:30.543 --> 00:03:32.045 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND SO HE ASKED MY PARENTS 00:03:32.111 --> 00:03:34.080 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% IF I COULD BE AN INITIATE UNDER HIM. 00:03:34.147 --> 00:03:35.014 align:center line:85% position:50% size:23% SO AT 13, 00:03:35.081 --> 00:03:37.016 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% I WAS AN INITIATE UNDER A HINDU GURU. 00:03:37.083 --> 00:03:38.618 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% REBECCA: DO YOU THINK THAT 00:03:38.685 --> 00:03:39.786 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% HE MIGHT HAVE SEEN 00:03:39.852 --> 00:03:42.822 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% THE CALL AND ANOINTING ON YOUR LIFE AND MAYBE WANTED 00:03:42.889 --> 00:03:44.490 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% TO HONE IN ON THAT? 00:03:44.557 --> 00:03:46.025 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% ALAN: OH, DEFINITELY. 00:03:46.092 --> 00:03:47.560 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% I DEFINITELY KNOW NOW 00:03:47.627 --> 00:03:49.462 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% THAT THE ENEMY DEFINITELY SEES THINGS 00:03:49.529 --> 00:03:50.630 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% AND KNOWS THING 00:03:50.697 --> 00:03:52.966 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% IN THAT REALM OF DESTINIES AND PURPOSES ON PEOPLE. 00:03:53.032 --> 00:03:54.734 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% THAT'S WHY HE COMES TO DECEIVE 00:03:54.801 --> 00:03:57.904 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% AND CREATE A DELUSION ON PEOPLE'S LIVES. 00:03:57.971 --> 00:04:01.641 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% SO DEFINITELY, I MEAN, I BELIEVE HE WAS CONTROLLED 00:04:01.708 --> 00:04:02.308 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% BY THE ENEMY. 00:04:02.375 --> 00:04:04.277 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND HE DEFINITELY PROBABLY 00:04:04.344 --> 00:04:05.545 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% SAW WHAT WAS ON MY LIFE 00:04:05.612 --> 00:04:06.913 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% THAT GOD HAD INTENDED. 00:04:06.980 --> 00:04:08.915 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% BUT HE CAME ALONG TO DECEIVE ME 00:04:08.982 --> 00:04:10.950 align:center line:79% position:50% size:73% AND TO RUN ME IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DIRECTION. 00:04:11.017 --> 00:04:12.051 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% REBECCA: ABSOLUTELY. 00:04:12.118 --> 00:04:13.753 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE 00:04:13.820 --> 00:04:15.622 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% WHO ARE DRAWN TO THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT 00:04:15.688 --> 00:04:17.457 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% WHO HAVE THAT KIND OF SPIRITUAL GIFTING, 00:04:17.523 --> 00:04:18.691 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% PROPHETIC GIFTING, 00:04:18.758 --> 00:04:19.993 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% AND THEN THEY GET SUCKED IN. 00:04:20.059 --> 00:04:21.294 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED 00:04:21.361 --> 00:04:23.396 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% FROM JOHN PAUL IS HE SAID, YOU KNOW, 00:04:23.463 --> 00:04:24.697 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% THEY HAVE THIS GIFT FROM GOD, 00:04:24.764 --> 00:04:26.599 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% AND THE GIFTS OF GOD ARE WITHOUT REPROACH, 00:04:26.666 --> 00:04:29.235 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% BUT THEY'LL TUNE INTO A DIFFERENT SOURCE. 00:04:29.302 --> 00:04:30.470 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% SO A DEMONIC SOURCE. 00:04:30.536 --> 00:04:33.039 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% SO TELL US, YOU'RE UNDERNEATH THESE GURUS. 00:04:33.106 --> 00:04:35.808 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% PROBABLY SOME OF THE BEST OF THE BEST 00:04:35.875 --> 00:04:37.744 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND YOU'RE GETTING ALL OF THIS WISDOM. 00:04:37.810 --> 00:04:39.178 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% WHAT DID THEY BEGIN TO TEACH YOU 00:04:39.245 --> 00:04:40.480 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% AND WHAT WERE THE THINGS 00:04:40.546 --> 00:04:41.614 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% THAT YOU BEGAN PRACTICE? 00:04:41.681 --> 00:04:44.217 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% ALAN: WELL, IN FACT, THEIR AIM WAS TO TRAIN ME UP 00:04:44.283 --> 00:04:46.419 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% SO EVENTUALLY I WOULD BE A LEADER 00:04:46.486 --> 00:04:49.422 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND THEN SPREAD THEIR WISDOM AROUND THE PLANET 00:04:49.489 --> 00:04:50.189 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% AND AROUND EARTH. 00:04:50.256 --> 00:04:52.592 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% BUT WHAT I DID IS EVERY YEAR 00:04:52.659 --> 00:04:57.096 align:center line:79% position:50% size:75% THE GURU WOULD SPIRITUALLY INITIATE ME WITH A HINDU LORD. 00:04:57.163 --> 00:04:58.898 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% SO YOU WOULD TAKE IT ON SPIRITUALLY, 00:04:58.965 --> 00:05:01.601 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% IT WOULD EVOKE OR YOKE INTO YOU. 00:05:01.668 --> 00:05:02.869 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% YOU WOULD FOLLOW THAT LORD. 00:05:02.935 --> 00:05:05.638 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% AND EVERY YEAR, AS MY SOUL SUPPOSEDLY ADVANCED, 00:05:05.705 --> 00:05:09.275 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% IS HOW I WOULD RECEIVE ANOTHER ONE AND ANOTHER 00:05:09.342 --> 00:05:10.910 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% ONE AND ANOTHER ONE. 00:05:10.977 --> 00:05:14.347 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% SO I WAS, THE REASON I WAS DOING THAT WAS TWOFOLD. 00:05:14.414 --> 00:05:16.749 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% ONE, THE BELIEF IN HINDUISM IS THAT 00:05:16.816 --> 00:05:18.317 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% YOU EVENTUALLY CAN REINCARNATE 00:05:18.384 --> 00:05:19.886 align:center line:85% position:50% size:68% AND BE SPIRITUALLY EVOLVED, 00:05:19.952 --> 00:05:21.220 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO COME BACK TO EARTH. 00:05:21.287 --> 00:05:22.288 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% YOU CAN THEN GO OFF 00:05:22.355 --> 00:05:24.824 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% INTO THE NIRVANA HEAVEN. 00:05:24.891 --> 00:05:26.626 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% THE SECOND REASON WAS THAT 00:05:26.693 --> 00:05:28.961 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% THE MORE I EVOLVED, 00:05:29.028 --> 00:05:32.231 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% AND THE MORE HINDU AND LORDS I HAD INVOKED IN ME, 00:05:32.298 --> 00:05:33.166 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% THAT RAN MY LIFE, 00:05:33.232 --> 00:05:35.168 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% THE MORE POWER I WOULD HAVE. 00:05:35.234 --> 00:05:37.103 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND THE MORE I WOULD BE LIKE A GOD 00:05:37.170 --> 00:05:39.639 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND LIKE MYSELF AS A GOD. 00:05:39.706 --> 00:05:41.107 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AND THAT I WOULD THEN HAVE MORE POWER 00:05:41.174 --> 00:05:42.709 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% TO DO THE THINGS THAT I NEEDED TO DO. 00:05:42.775 --> 00:05:46.279 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% SO AFTER THOSE INITIATIONS, 00:05:46.345 --> 00:05:47.480 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND THE RITUALS INVOLVED IN IT, 00:05:47.547 --> 00:05:48.848 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% THEY THEN ALSO TAUGHT ME 00:05:48.915 --> 00:05:49.949 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% EVERYTHING THAT EXISTED, 00:05:50.016 --> 00:05:51.818 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND STILL EXISTS AROUND TODAY. 00:05:51.884 --> 00:05:52.919 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% ANYTHING IN NEW AGE, 00:05:52.985 --> 00:05:55.221 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% ANYTHING TO DO WITH HINDUISM. 00:05:55.288 --> 00:05:58.057 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANCIENT SCRIPTS OR ANCIENT 00:05:58.124 --> 00:06:00.660 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% TECHNIQUES OF THINGS THEY TAUGHT ME. 00:06:00.727 --> 00:06:02.528 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% REBECCA: SO WHAT'S SO CRAZY 00:06:02.595 --> 00:06:04.464 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% IS I READ THAT THE FIRST TIME YOU WENT THROUGH THIS 00:06:04.530 --> 00:06:05.798 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% RITUAL OF THE YOKING, 00:06:05.865 --> 00:06:07.200 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% I BELIEVE YOU WERE 13. 00:06:07.266 --> 00:06:08.668 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% SO YOU WERE VERY YOUNG. 00:06:08.735 --> 00:06:12.271 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE WAS LIKE? 00:06:12.338 --> 00:06:15.141 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% DID THE PRESENCE THAT CAME INTO YOU, 00:06:15.208 --> 00:06:16.375 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% WOULD YOU SAY THAT WAS A DEMON? 00:06:16.442 --> 00:06:18.878 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND DID IT FEEL EVIL AT THE TIME, 00:06:18.945 --> 00:06:22.949 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% OR DID IT JUST FEEL LIKE POWER? 00:06:23.015 --> 00:06:23.950 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% ALAN: IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE EVIL, 00:06:24.016 --> 00:06:26.819 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A GRID FOR EVIL. 00:06:26.886 --> 00:06:28.087 align:center line:79% position:50% size:33% IN FACT, MOST OF EVERYTHING 00:06:28.154 --> 00:06:29.122 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% I WAS INVOLVED IN 00:06:29.188 --> 00:06:30.289 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% NEVER BELIEVED THAT THERE WAS SUCH A THING 00:06:30.356 --> 00:06:31.958 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% AS EVIL OR A DEVIL OR AN ENEMY. 00:06:32.024 --> 00:06:34.827 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% SO IT MANIFESTED IN POWER. 00:06:34.894 --> 00:06:36.229 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% IT MANIFESTED IN POWER 00:06:36.295 --> 00:06:38.064 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% AND ALSO IN WISDOM. 00:06:38.131 --> 00:06:41.267 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% I WOULD HAVE, THOSE LORDS WOULD VISIT ME SOMETIMES 00:06:41.334 --> 00:06:43.669 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE DAY, 00:06:43.736 --> 00:06:45.037 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE LIGHT BEINGS, 00:06:45.104 --> 00:06:47.273 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% OR SPIRIT GUIDE TYPE OF THINGS. 00:06:47.340 --> 00:06:48.441 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% AND THEY WOULD GIVE ME WISDOM 00:06:48.508 --> 00:06:49.475 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% OF WHAT I WAS TO DO 00:06:49.542 --> 00:06:51.744 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% AND HOW I WAS TO EVOLVE. 00:06:51.811 --> 00:06:53.479 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND THEN I WOULD USE THAT, 00:06:53.546 --> 00:06:54.614 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% ESPECIALLY WHEN I GOT OLDER. 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.183 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% SO BY THE TIME I REACHED MY MID 20S, 00:06:57.250 --> 00:06:58.651 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% I ACTUALLY MOVED TO L.A. 00:06:58.718 --> 00:06:59.519 align:center line:85% position:50% size:30% TO BE CLOSER 00:06:59.585 --> 00:07:00.753 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING 00:07:00.820 --> 00:07:01.921 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% AND LEFT AUSTRALIA. 00:07:01.988 --> 00:07:03.389 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY, 00:07:03.456 --> 00:07:04.924 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% THEY THEN STARTED TO TRAIN ME 00:07:04.991 --> 00:07:06.993 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% INTO DOING EVEN MORE SPIRITUAL THINGS MYSELF. 00:07:07.059 --> 00:07:09.095 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% SO OFFICIALLY, I BECAME A LEADER. 00:07:09.162 --> 00:07:12.999 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% I BECAME, ALMOST TO THE POINT, WHERE I COULD BE IN 00:07:13.065 --> 00:07:14.433 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% THE INNER CIRCLE WITH THE GURU. 00:07:14.500 --> 00:07:15.701 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, 00:07:15.768 --> 00:07:16.969 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% THEY TRAINED ME 00:07:17.036 --> 00:07:18.671 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% IN CERTAIN PRACTICES TO THE POINT 00:07:18.738 --> 00:07:20.973 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% THAT I WOULD REACH A MASTER LEVEL 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:22.308 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% OR A SPIRITUAL MASTER LEVEL. 00:07:22.375 --> 00:07:24.076 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% SO THEN I COULD GO OUT AND TEACH THEM. 00:07:24.143 --> 00:07:25.545 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% SO IT WAS ALL ABOUT POWER 00:07:25.611 --> 00:07:28.447 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT, EVEN FALSE HEALINGS WOULD 00:07:28.514 --> 00:07:29.382 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% HAPPEN AS WELL, 00:07:29.448 --> 00:07:31.217 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% UNDER THAT BANNER. 00:07:31.284 --> 00:07:34.120 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% BUT WE NEVER, WE NEVER BELIEVED 00:07:34.187 --> 00:07:34.987 align:center line:85% position:50% size:30% IT WAS EVIL. 00:07:35.054 --> 00:07:36.622 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% I NEVER HAD A GRID FOR THAT. 00:07:36.689 --> 00:07:38.357 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% I DID EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO MY HEART. 00:07:38.424 --> 00:07:40.560 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% I WANT MY HEART, 00:07:40.626 --> 00:07:41.894 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AND I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW GOD CREATED ME 00:07:41.961 --> 00:07:43.763 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% WAS TO HELP TRANSFORM LIVES. 00:07:43.830 --> 00:07:46.699 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AND HELP PEOPLE LIVE A MORE SUCCESSFUL, 00:07:46.766 --> 00:07:49.802 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% HAPPIER LIFE TO DO WITH GOD. 00:07:49.869 --> 00:07:50.770 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% BUT I'M NOT KNOWING THAT 00:07:50.837 --> 00:07:52.939 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% THE ENEMY WANTED TO TWIST IT 00:07:53.005 --> 00:07:54.974 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% SO THAT MY HEART, 00:07:55.041 --> 00:07:57.443 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% THAT WANTED TO JUST HELP PEOPLE AND LOVE THEM, 00:07:57.510 --> 00:08:01.380 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% WAS DECEIVED AND DELUSIONED OVER HERE 00:08:01.447 --> 00:08:02.815 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% WITH THAT DECEPTION. 00:08:02.882 --> 00:08:04.951 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% SO THAT I'D ACTUALLY DO THE OPPOSITE. 00:08:05.017 --> 00:08:06.052 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% REBECCA: THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS 00:08:06.118 --> 00:08:07.320 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% I LOVED ABOUT YOUR STORY 00:08:07.386 --> 00:08:10.323 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% IS THAT YOU HAD THIS CALLING TO HELP PEOPLE, 00:08:10.389 --> 00:08:12.658 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND YOU EVEN SAW IT WHEN YOU WERE 11 YEARS OLD 00:08:12.725 --> 00:08:14.594 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND YOU HAD THIS VISION FROM GOD. 00:08:14.660 --> 00:08:17.496 align:center line:69% position:50% size:43% BUT IT WAS INGRAINED IN YOU, 00:08:17.563 --> 00:08:19.465 align:center line:69% position:50% size:40% YOUR CALLING AND YOUR PURPOSE. 00:08:19.532 --> 00:08:21.100 align:center line:69% position:50% size:43% AND YOU WERE JUST WALKING IT OUT 00:08:21.167 --> 00:08:23.035 align:center line:69% position:50% size:40% THE WAY YOU KNEW AT THE TIME. 00:08:23.102 --> 00:08:24.737 align:center line:69% position:50% size:40% BUT YOU WEREN'T, LIKE YOU SAID, 00:08:24.804 --> 00:08:27.306 align:center line:69% position:50% size:38% LEADING PEOPLE, HELPING PEOPLE, 00:08:27.373 --> 00:08:29.175 align:center line:69% position:50% size:68% EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING. 00:08:29.242 --> 00:08:31.544 align:center line:69% position:50% size:68% BECAUSE YOU WERE DOING WHAT YOU THOUGHT WAS RIGHT. 00:08:31.611 --> 00:08:32.745 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% AND YOU TAPPED IN SOMETHING 00:08:32.812 --> 00:08:35.047 align:center line:85% position:50% size:73% THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT IS, 00:08:35.114 --> 00:08:36.716 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND I'M SO GLAD YOU SAID IT. 00:08:36.782 --> 00:08:38.050 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% IS THAT IN NEW AGE, 00:08:38.117 --> 00:08:40.553 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% YOU ARE TAUGHT THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EVIL, 00:08:40.620 --> 00:08:42.855 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% WHICH I DIDN'T EVEN LEARN ABOUT THAT UNTIL TODAY. 00:08:42.922 --> 00:08:46.025 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% WHICH IS KIND OF A VERY DANGEROUS NOTION 00:08:46.092 --> 00:08:47.260 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% TO BELIEVE IN. 00:08:47.326 --> 00:08:48.728 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% AND THEN ALSO THAT THESE BEINGS, 00:08:48.794 --> 00:08:50.329 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% WHO CAME TO YOU, 00:08:50.396 --> 00:08:52.164 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% CAME TO YOU AS A FIGURE OF LIGHT. 00:08:52.231 --> 00:08:53.666 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT 00:08:53.733 --> 00:08:54.934 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% THESE LORDS WERE GOOD. 00:08:55.001 --> 00:08:56.502 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% ALAN: YOU WOULD THINK THAT, 00:08:56.569 --> 00:08:58.671 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% BUT THEY'RE NOT. 00:08:58.738 --> 00:09:01.474 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% REBECCA: WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT 00:09:01.540 --> 00:09:04.710 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% HAS A STRONG INFLUENCE IN HOLLYWOOD, IN L.A., 00:09:04.777 --> 00:09:06.913 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% AND HOW DID YOU SEE THAT? 00:09:06.979 --> 00:09:08.414 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% ALAN: YES, DEFINITELY. 00:09:08.481 --> 00:09:10.549 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% IN FACT, IN THE ORGANIZATION 00:09:10.616 --> 00:09:12.118 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% UNDER THE GURU THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN, 00:09:12.184 --> 00:09:13.786 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% IT WAS VERY SECRET. 00:09:13.853 --> 00:09:16.689 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% BUT WE ACTUALLY OWNED DIFFERENT THINGS. 00:09:16.756 --> 00:09:18.858 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% WE HAD UNIVERSITIES THAT WE OWNED. 00:09:18.925 --> 00:09:22.328 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% COLLEGES, MEDICAL CENTERS, DIFFERENT PLACES THAT 00:09:22.395 --> 00:09:23.229 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% BEHIND THE SCENES, 00:09:23.296 --> 00:09:24.096 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% WE KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING, 00:09:24.163 --> 00:09:26.032 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% BUT THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T. 00:09:26.098 --> 00:09:27.233 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% EVEN BUSINESS CONSULTING, 00:09:27.300 --> 00:09:28.401 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% THOSE TYPES OF SEMINARS. 00:09:28.467 --> 00:09:31.304 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% WE WOULD TAKE ALL OF THE NEW AGE PRINCIPLES 00:09:31.370 --> 00:09:33.839 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% AND TAKE THEM INTO THESE COMPANIES. 00:09:33.906 --> 00:09:35.541 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% THE INTERESTING THING WHEN YOU SAY HOLLYWOOD, 00:09:35.608 --> 00:09:40.346 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68% WE ACTUALLY, AND THERE'S MOVEMENTS LIKE SCIENTOLOGY, 00:09:40.413 --> 00:09:42.515 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% AND SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE AROUND TODAY 00:09:42.581 --> 00:09:43.983 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% WILL DO THAT. 00:09:44.050 --> 00:09:45.017 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% WE DID THE SAME. 00:09:45.084 --> 00:09:48.187 align:center line:79% position:65% size:50% AND THIS IS PROBABLY IN THE EARLY 90S, 00:09:48.254 --> 00:09:51.824 align:center line:69% position:50% size:58% WE ACTUALLY HAD CERTAIN FAMOUS ACTORS 00:09:51.891 --> 00:09:53.960 align:center line:74% position:50% size:60% WORKING WITH US PR-WISE, 00:09:54.026 --> 00:09:56.429 align:center line:69% position:50% size:65% SO THAT THEY'D BE THE HEAD OR THE FRONT OF THINGS 00:09:56.495 --> 00:09:57.930 align:center line:74% position:50% size:43% THAT I WAS DOING. 00:09:57.997 --> 00:09:59.699 align:center line:69% position:50% size:38% I WOULDN'T NAME THEM RIGHT NOW. 00:09:59.765 --> 00:10:03.869 align:center line:69% position:50% size:68% BUT THEY ACTUALLY WERE PART OF WHAT WE WERE DOING. 00:10:03.936 --> 00:10:05.004 align:center line:74% position:50% size:63% THERE'S EVEN A LADY TODAY 00:10:05.071 --> 00:10:06.505 align:center line:69% position:50% size:40% THAT HAS A VERY FAMOUS NEWSPAPER 00:10:06.572 --> 00:10:09.608 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% THAT IS, I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH. 00:10:09.675 --> 00:10:12.878 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70% BUT SHE WAS PART OF THE WHOLE MOVEMENT AND STILL IS, 00:10:12.945 --> 00:10:14.347 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% THAT STILL EXISTS TODAY. 00:10:14.413 --> 00:10:16.215 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% SO BEHIND HOLLYWOOD, THE ACTORS, 00:10:16.282 --> 00:10:17.783 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. 00:10:17.850 --> 00:10:20.286 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% THEY KNOW THE PLANS THAT ARE GOING ON. 00:10:20.353 --> 00:10:21.887 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING AT SOME POINT 00:10:21.954 --> 00:10:23.189 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% IF YOU WANT ME TO GET TO THAT. 00:10:23.255 --> 00:10:25.224 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% BUT EVEN SOME OF THE SECRET MEETINGS 00:10:25.291 --> 00:10:26.625 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% THAT I GOT INVITED INTO, 00:10:26.692 --> 00:10:28.160 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WERE THERE. 00:10:28.227 --> 00:10:30.196 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND THEY KNEW EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING. 00:10:30.262 --> 00:10:32.031 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% AND IT'S SUCH A DECEPTION. 00:10:32.098 --> 00:10:36.535 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% BECAUSE AFTER I FINALLY GOT OUT AND RESCUED OF IT, 00:10:36.602 --> 00:10:37.870 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% THE INTERESTING THING IS I THOUGHT, 00:10:37.937 --> 00:10:39.205 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% WHY DO PEOPLE BELIEVE 00:10:39.271 --> 00:10:43.342 align:center line:79% position:50% size:75% HOLLYWOOD ACTORS, WHO ARE PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ACT, 00:10:43.409 --> 00:10:44.677 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% THEY'RE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. 00:10:44.744 --> 00:10:45.444 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% THEY'RE ACTING, 00:10:45.511 --> 00:10:47.313 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT IT. 00:10:47.380 --> 00:10:48.914 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% WHY DOES THE PUBLIC BELIEVE THAT? 00:10:48.981 --> 00:10:52.151 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% THAT'S THE ULTIMATE, I STILL DON'T KNOW THAT, 00:10:52.218 --> 00:10:54.153 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% EXCEPT FOR THE POWER OF DECEPTION. 00:10:54.220 --> 00:10:55.921 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% REBECCA: THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD POINT, THOUGH. 00:10:55.988 --> 00:10:56.822 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 00:10:56.889 --> 00:10:58.858 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% IF ANYONE COULD PULL SOMETHING OFF 00:10:58.924 --> 00:10:59.825 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% AND BE DECEPTIVE, 00:10:59.892 --> 00:11:01.994 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% IT WOULD BE ACTORS AND ACTRESSES 00:11:02.061 --> 00:11:03.629 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING. 00:11:03.696 --> 00:11:04.663 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% THEY PUT ON A SHOW. 00:11:04.730 --> 00:11:06.399 align:center line:79% position:50% size:33% YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS 00:11:06.465 --> 00:11:08.467 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% I WANT TO DO ON THIS PODCAST, 00:11:08.534 --> 00:11:09.635 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% AND I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT, 00:11:09.702 --> 00:11:10.836 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% IS THE FACT THAT 00:11:10.903 --> 00:11:11.771 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% SO MANY CHRISTIANS 00:11:11.837 --> 00:11:14.440 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% HAVE GOOD HEARTS AND GOOD INTENTIONS. 00:11:14.507 --> 00:11:15.408 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% BUT THEY'RE NOT AWARE 00:11:15.474 --> 00:11:17.476 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% THAT THE DEVIL IS REAL. 00:11:17.543 --> 00:11:19.378 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% OR THEY REALLY NOT HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING 00:11:19.445 --> 00:11:20.446 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% OF SPIRITUAL WARFARE. 00:11:20.513 --> 00:11:22.248 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND THE DEVIL JUST CAN KIND OF KICK THEM AROUND 00:11:22.314 --> 00:11:23.082 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% AND MESS WITH THEM 00:11:23.149 --> 00:11:24.350 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND TEAR THEIR FAMILIES APART. 00:11:24.417 --> 00:11:26.052 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% AND I THINK CHRISTIANS JUST SOMETIMES 00:11:26.118 --> 00:11:30.089 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% BLINDLY LISTEN TO OR BLINDLY INFLUENCE, LIKE 00:11:30.156 --> 00:11:31.590 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% THINGS LIKE HOLLYWOOD, 00:11:31.657 --> 00:11:33.859 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T REALIZE 00:11:33.926 --> 00:11:35.227 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING FOR 00:11:35.294 --> 00:11:37.329 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% AND WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING INTO OUR HOMES. 00:11:37.396 --> 00:11:39.298 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% SO SPEAK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO THAT. 00:11:39.365 --> 00:11:41.033 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% ALAN: I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU 00:11:41.100 --> 00:11:42.368 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% THAT DECEPTION IS OUT THERE. 00:11:42.435 --> 00:11:44.637 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% LET ME GIVE YOU THIS EXAMPLE. 00:11:44.703 --> 00:11:46.806 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% IN ONE OF THE SECRET MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, 00:11:46.872 --> 00:11:48.107 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% WE TALKED ABOUT TWO THINGS. 00:11:48.174 --> 00:11:50.543 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% ONE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEW WORLD ORDER, 00:11:50.609 --> 00:11:52.645 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% WHICH I CAN COME BACK TO LATER. 00:11:52.711 --> 00:11:54.146 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% AND A ONE WORLD RELIGION, 00:11:54.213 --> 00:11:55.381 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND WE DISCUSSED STRATEGIES 00:11:55.448 --> 00:11:56.882 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% OF WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR THAT. 00:11:56.949 --> 00:11:58.217 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% BUT THE THIRD THING, 00:11:58.284 --> 00:11:59.085 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% AND THIS WAS SOMETHING 00:11:59.151 --> 00:12:00.152 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% THAT WAS ONE OF MY ASSIGNMENTS. 00:12:00.219 --> 00:12:01.620 align:center line:74% position:50% size:55% IT WAS ASSIGNED TO ME. 00:12:01.687 --> 00:12:03.389 align:center line:69% position:50% size:45% IS THAT IN A HINDUISTIC BELIEF, 00:12:03.456 --> 00:12:06.225 align:center line:69% position:50% size:45% WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT SOULS EVOLVE, 00:12:06.292 --> 00:12:07.860 align:center line:69% position:50% size:48% WE ACTUALLY WERE TAUGHT BY OUR GURU, 00:12:07.927 --> 00:12:09.829 align:center line:69% position:50% size:60% AND BELIEVED THAT CHRISTIANS WERE HERE FOR 00:12:09.895 --> 00:12:11.464 align:center line:74% position:50% size:53% THEIR FIRST LIFETIME. 00:12:11.530 --> 00:12:12.631 align:center line:69% position:50% size:43% THEY'VE NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE. 00:12:12.698 --> 00:12:14.366 align:center line:69% position:50% size:43% AND THEY WERE THE REASON FOR RACISM 00:12:14.433 --> 00:12:16.335 align:center line:69% position:50% size:65% AND THEY WERE THE REASON FOR INTOLERANCE, ETCETERA, 00:12:16.402 --> 00:12:17.303 align:center line:69% position:50% size:48% ETCETERA, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. 00:12:17.369 --> 00:12:19.171 align:center line:69% position:50% size:43% AND SO I WAS ACTUALLY ASSIGNED 00:12:19.238 --> 00:12:22.041 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AS THAT, THROUGHOUT THE REST OF MY LIFE, 00:12:22.108 --> 00:12:25.344 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AS I CONTINUED TO DO WHAT I WAS DOING, 00:12:25.411 --> 00:12:27.513 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% MY JOB WAS TO WEAN CHRISTIANS AWAY 00:12:27.580 --> 00:12:30.082 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% FROM THE ABSOLUTE, THAT JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD, 00:12:30.149 --> 00:12:30.950 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% THAT HE WAS RESURRECTED, 00:12:31.016 --> 00:12:32.918 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% THAT HE'S TAKEN BACK AUTHORITY. 00:12:32.985 --> 00:12:35.488 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% MY JOB WAS TO WEAN THEM OUT OF THAT, 00:12:35.554 --> 00:12:36.889 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% SO THAT THEY COULD EVOLVE. 00:12:36.956 --> 00:12:38.657 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% SO MY HEART WAS RIGHT, 00:12:38.724 --> 00:12:40.759 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% I THOUGHT WHAT I BELIEVED WAS TRUE, 00:12:40.826 --> 00:12:44.163 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68% THAT I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP THEM EVOLVE BETTER. 00:12:44.230 --> 00:12:45.598 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT I WAS DOING 00:12:45.664 --> 00:12:46.565 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% UNDER THAT DECEPTION, 00:12:46.632 --> 00:12:48.501 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% WAS PULLING THEM AWAY FROM THEIR FAITH. 00:12:48.567 --> 00:12:50.269 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% BUT I WAS, I WAS TRAINED 00:12:50.336 --> 00:12:52.538 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% IN DIFFERENT MANIPULATIVE NARRATIVES 00:12:52.605 --> 00:12:54.740 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% AND LINGUISTIC PROGRAMMING AND EVERYTHING 00:12:54.807 --> 00:12:56.509 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% OF HOW TO TRAIN 00:12:56.575 --> 00:12:57.543 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% AND PULL A CHRISTIAN, 00:12:57.610 --> 00:13:00.079 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% OR PULL A PERSON AWAY FROM THEIR FAITH. 00:13:00.146 --> 00:13:01.080 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% SO THAT IN SUCH TIME, 00:13:01.147 --> 00:13:02.581 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% THEY WILL WEAN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, 00:13:02.648 --> 00:13:05.885 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND NOT EVEN KNOW THEY'D WEANED AWAY FROM IT. 00:13:05.951 --> 00:13:07.419 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% AND UNFORTUNATELY, 00:13:07.486 --> 00:13:08.354 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% I WAS SUCCESSFUL AT IT. 00:13:08.420 --> 00:13:10.356 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND IT'S STILL HAPPENING TODAY 00:13:10.422 --> 00:13:12.258 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT ARE IN PLACE. 00:13:12.324 --> 00:13:13.392 align:center line:85% position:50% size:73% REBECCA: YES, AND THIS IS WHY 00:13:13.459 --> 00:13:15.661 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS KIND OF STUFF. 00:13:15.728 --> 00:13:18.097 align:center line:69% position:50% size:38% BUT I WANT TO HIT ON A FEW OF 00:13:18.164 --> 00:13:19.732 align:center line:69% position:50% size:33% THAT YOU LIST IN YOUR BOOK. 00:13:19.798 --> 00:13:21.267 align:center line:69% position:50% size:40% THIS IS ACTUALLY IN CHAPTER 3, 00:13:21.333 --> 00:13:23.836 align:center line:69% position:50% size:48% YOU LIST ON DIFFERENT PRACTICES 00:13:23.903 --> 00:13:26.438 align:center line:74% position:50% size:50% THAT YOU TRAINED IN. 00:13:26.505 --> 00:13:28.340 align:center line:69% position:50% size:45% AND YOU COMPLETED, AND OBVIOUSLY, 00:13:28.407 --> 00:13:28.974 align:center line:74% position:50% size:55% I WON'T HAVE TIME TALK 00:13:29.041 --> 00:13:30.142 align:center line:74% position:50% size:45% ABOUT ALL OF THEM. 00:13:30.209 --> 00:13:31.310 align:center line:69% position:50% size:65% OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T, WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT A FEW. 00:13:31.377 --> 00:13:34.079 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MEDITATION 00:13:34.146 --> 00:13:36.715 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% BECAUSE I SEE THAT EVERYWHERE. 00:13:36.782 --> 00:13:38.184 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT MEDITATION, 00:13:38.250 --> 00:13:40.986 align:center line:79% position:48% size:75% BUT THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEW AGE MEDITATION, 00:13:41.053 --> 00:13:42.087 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% AND BIBLICAL MEDITATION. 00:13:42.154 --> 00:13:44.657 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? 00:13:44.723 --> 00:13:45.324 align:center line:85% position:50% size:28% ALAN: YEAH. 00:13:45.391 --> 00:13:46.091 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE. 00:13:46.158 --> 00:13:47.259 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% BIBLICAL MEDITATION IS WHERE 00:13:47.326 --> 00:13:49.595 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% I'M CONSCIOUS, AND I'M FOCUSED ON A SCRIPTURE OR 00:13:49.662 --> 00:13:50.429 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% THE WORD OF GOD. 00:13:50.496 --> 00:13:51.463 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% AND I'M THINKING UPON IT. 00:13:51.530 --> 00:13:52.565 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% I'M THINKING UPON IT. 00:13:52.631 --> 00:13:53.699 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% I'M THINKING UPON THAT. 00:13:53.766 --> 00:13:56.268 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AND I'M OPENING UP ACTUALLY, MY SPIRIT, 00:13:56.335 --> 00:13:58.337 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% MY MIND, MY SOUL. 00:13:58.404 --> 00:14:02.308 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% I'M OPENING UP MY WILL TO THAT SCRIPTURE, 00:14:02.374 --> 00:14:04.877 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% THAT TEACHING THAT GOD HAS BROUGHT FORTH. 00:14:04.944 --> 00:14:06.345 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% AND I'M FOCUSED ON IT 00:14:06.412 --> 00:14:08.681 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% SO THAT IT CAN START TO CHANGE MY LIFE. 00:14:08.747 --> 00:14:11.650 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% IT CAN START TO CHANGE THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. 00:14:11.717 --> 00:14:12.818 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% WHETHER THAT'S -- FOCUS ON A SCRIPTURE 00:14:12.885 --> 00:14:15.287 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% THAT BRINGS HEALING OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. 00:14:15.354 --> 00:14:18.023 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% SO IT'S A VERY FOCUSED-CONSCIOUS THING. 00:14:18.090 --> 00:14:21.227 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% EASTERN MEDITATION IS TOTALLY THE COUNTERFEIT. 00:14:21.293 --> 00:14:23.596 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% IT'S WHERE WE SHUT OURSELVES DOWN, 00:14:23.662 --> 00:14:24.763 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% WE SHUT DOWN OUR INTELLECT, 00:14:24.830 --> 00:14:26.031 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% WE SHUT DOWN OUR SOUL. 00:14:26.098 --> 00:14:27.466 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% WE SHUT OURSELVES DOWN. 00:14:27.533 --> 00:14:32.304 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% AND WE GO OFF INTO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, 00:14:32.371 --> 00:14:33.205 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% HOW CAN I SAY IT? 00:14:33.272 --> 00:14:35.741 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% PROBABLY DIFFERENT TYPES OF REALMS 00:14:35.808 --> 00:14:36.976 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THAT WE'RE NOT MEANT TO BE TOUCHING 00:14:37.042 --> 00:14:38.844 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% OR GOING INTO. 00:14:38.911 --> 00:14:40.913 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% NOW PEOPLE SOMETIMES COME AND ARGUE WITH ME, 00:14:40.980 --> 00:14:42.047 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% I DON'T KNOW WHY. 00:14:42.114 --> 00:14:44.416 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% I MEAN, IT'S NOT AS IF I JUST WROTE THE BOOKS. 00:14:44.483 --> 00:14:45.351 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% I LIVED THIS. 00:14:45.417 --> 00:14:46.552 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% I WORKED FOR THE ENEMY. 00:14:46.619 --> 00:14:47.786 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% SO I UNDERSTAND HIS WAYS. 00:14:47.853 --> 00:14:50.889 align:center line:79% position:50% size:73% SOME PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY, OH, WELL, BUT, YOU KNOW, 00:14:50.956 --> 00:14:52.658 align:center line:74% position:50% size:63% PETER FELL INTO A TRANCE. 00:14:52.725 --> 00:14:54.326 align:center line:69% position:50% size:63% I'M LIKE, WELL, YEAH, BUT IT WAS LED BY GOD. 00:14:54.393 --> 00:14:55.961 align:center line:69% position:50% size:48% IT WAS A TRANCE THAT CAME FROM GOD. 00:14:56.028 --> 00:14:59.898 align:center line:69% position:50% size:45% AND IF ANYTHING IS DIRECTLY FROM GOD, 00:14:59.965 --> 00:15:00.833 align:center line:74% position:50% size:53% THEN WE'RE PROTECTED. 00:15:00.899 --> 00:15:02.635 align:center line:74% position:50% size:50% BUT IF WE, AS IN US, 00:15:02.701 --> 00:15:05.070 align:center line:69% position:50% size:60% THAT WE'RE LIKE THE SELF OUT OF OUR OWN SOUL, 00:15:05.137 --> 00:15:07.506 align:center line:74% position:50% size:75% WE END UP, ENDING UP IN PLACES 00:15:07.573 --> 00:15:09.041 align:center line:69% position:50% size:38% WHERE GOD CAN'T EVEN HELP US. 00:15:09.108 --> 00:15:10.409 align:center line:69% position:50% size:40% AND THERE'S SUCH DECEPTION THERE. 00:15:10.476 --> 00:15:12.211 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% SO THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. 00:15:12.278 --> 00:15:15.014 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% AND EVERYTHING YOU STUDY, 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:15.948 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% IF YOU WANTED TO, 00:15:16.015 --> 00:15:17.283 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% BUT EVERYTHING YOU WOULD STUDY, 00:15:17.349 --> 00:15:18.784 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND I DID THAT BACK IN THE NEW AGE 00:15:18.851 --> 00:15:22.221 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% ABOUT EASTERN MEDITATION, IS TOTALLY FOCUSED ON 00:15:22.288 --> 00:15:23.722 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% HINDU OR BUDDHIST GODS 00:15:23.789 --> 00:15:25.357 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND LORDS RULING YOUR LIFE 00:15:25.424 --> 00:15:26.625 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% VERSUS THE LORD. 00:15:26.692 --> 00:15:29.361 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% SO AS A CHRISTIAN, IF YOU START TO DO IT, 00:15:29.428 --> 00:15:32.364 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% YOU'RE MOVING INTO THE FOREIGN PRACTICES 00:15:32.431 --> 00:15:34.767 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THAT GOD WARNED THE OLD TESTAMENT PEOPLE 00:15:34.833 --> 00:15:36.335 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% FOR OVER 250 TIMES 00:15:36.402 --> 00:15:38.837 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% STAY AWAY FROM THE FOREIGN PRACTICES 00:15:38.904 --> 00:15:40.172 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. 00:15:40.239 --> 00:15:42.574 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% REBECCA: YEAH, FOREIGN PRACTICES, FALSE GODS. 00:15:42.641 --> 00:15:44.410 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND EVEN WHEN PETER FELL INTO A TRANCE, 00:15:44.476 --> 00:15:47.279 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% HE WASN'T SEEKING AN EXPERIENCE. 00:15:47.346 --> 00:15:49.515 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% YOU KNOW, WE JUST SEEK GOD IN HIS PRESENCE, 00:15:49.581 --> 00:15:51.250 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND THEN WHATEVER HAPPENS, HAPPENS. 00:15:51.317 --> 00:15:52.518 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. 00:15:52.584 --> 00:15:54.920 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% OKAY, PSYCHIC READINGS. 00:15:54.987 --> 00:15:56.488 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% BECAUSE I STILL SEE 00:15:56.555 --> 00:15:58.924 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THIS ONLINE 00:15:58.991 --> 00:15:59.958 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% AND EVERYWHERE. 00:16:00.025 --> 00:16:01.827 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% THERE'S A MOVIE COMING OUT EVEN RIGHT NOW 00:16:01.894 --> 00:16:03.062 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% WHERE THERE'S A PSYCHIC IN IT. 00:16:03.128 --> 00:16:07.499 align:center line:79% position:50% size:75% AND SO I CONSTANTLY SEE, YOU KNOW, WITCHCRAFT AND MEDIA 00:16:07.566 --> 00:16:09.601 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% BEING PRESENTED AS NORMAL. 00:16:09.668 --> 00:16:11.904 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% ALAN: YEAH, WHICH IS PART OF THE PLAN OF THE ENEMY 00:16:11.970 --> 00:16:13.072 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% TO TRY TO MAKE IT NORMAL 00:16:13.138 --> 00:16:14.473 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% AND WEAN EVERYBODY DOWN TO IT, 00:16:14.540 --> 00:16:15.607 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% INCLUDING CHRISTIANS. 00:16:15.674 --> 00:16:19.478 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% BUT PSYCHIC READING, FIRST OF ALL, 00:16:19.545 --> 00:16:21.613 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% IS A COUNTERFEIT OF PROPHECY, 00:16:21.680 --> 00:16:22.815 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% OF THE PROPHETIC. 00:16:22.881 --> 00:16:23.916 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% WHETHER THAT'S WORDS OF WISDOM, 00:16:23.982 --> 00:16:24.583 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE, 00:16:24.650 --> 00:16:25.351 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% WHAT THAT MIGHT BE 00:16:25.417 --> 00:16:26.251 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% AND THE PROPHECY. 00:16:26.318 --> 00:16:27.920 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% BUT IT'S A DIRECT COUNTERFEIT TO IT. 00:16:27.986 --> 00:16:31.023 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% AS YOU SAID, LIKE WE'RE SPIRITUAL BEINGS, 00:16:31.090 --> 00:16:33.025 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% WE SEEK A SPIRITUAL GOD. 00:16:33.092 --> 00:16:36.562 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% WE'RE HUNTING FOR THAT, 00:16:36.628 --> 00:16:37.663 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% AND CHRISTIANS AS WELL, 00:16:37.730 --> 00:16:39.798 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% AND HUNTING FOR THAT SUPERNATURAL. 00:16:39.865 --> 00:16:42.067 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% SO IF THEY'RE NOT TAUGHT 00:16:42.134 --> 00:16:45.304 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% HOW TO UNDERSTAND GOD'S GIFTS, 00:16:45.371 --> 00:16:47.506 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% WHICH ARE, NUMBER ONE, LED BY THE SPIRIT, 00:16:47.573 --> 00:16:48.507 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% NOT LED BY SELF. 00:16:48.574 --> 00:16:49.541 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% THEY'RE LED BY THE SPIRIT, 00:16:49.608 --> 00:16:51.210 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE. 00:16:51.276 --> 00:16:54.113 align:center line:79% position:50% size:73% BUT RATHER THAN FOCUSING AND SEEKING AFTER THOSE GIFTS 00:16:54.179 --> 00:16:55.914 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% TO BE PROFICIENT IN THEM, 00:16:55.981 --> 00:16:57.249 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% AND TO UNDERSTAND THEM, 00:16:57.316 --> 00:16:58.283 align:center line:85% position:50% size:68% THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE LAZY, 00:16:58.350 --> 00:16:59.752 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% AND THEY JUST SEEK SOMETHING ELSE. 00:16:59.818 --> 00:17:01.553 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% SO THEY'LL SEEK PSYCHIC STUFF. 00:17:01.620 --> 00:17:03.722 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% AND I KNOW LOTS OF BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIANS, 00:17:03.789 --> 00:17:05.023 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% EVEN TONGUE-SPEAKING CHRISTIANS 00:17:05.090 --> 00:17:06.625 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% WILL ACTUALLY GO 00:17:06.692 --> 00:17:07.793 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% AND DO PSYCHIC READING. 00:17:07.860 --> 00:17:08.894 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% I THINK ONE, IT'S LAZY. 00:17:08.961 --> 00:17:10.929 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% SECOND, THEY'RE LITERALLY DECEIVED. 00:17:10.996 --> 00:17:12.498 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AND THIRD, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T LIKE 00:17:12.564 --> 00:17:14.500 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GIVING THEM. 00:17:14.566 --> 00:17:17.669 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% AND SO THEY SEEK A MORE, 00:17:17.736 --> 00:17:20.973 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% IT'S MORE A RAZZLE-DAZZLE TYPE THING PSYCHIC STUFF. 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:23.075 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% FOR ME, PERSONALLY, THE DIFFERENCE, 00:17:23.142 --> 00:17:24.543 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% BECAUSE WE'LL GET TO IT, 00:17:24.610 --> 00:17:26.044 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% BUT WHEN I GOT SAVED, 00:17:26.111 --> 00:17:27.646 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE SPIRIT WAS. 00:17:27.713 --> 00:17:28.914 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO DISCERN 00:17:28.981 --> 00:17:30.516 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% BETWEEN AN EVIL SPIRIT 00:17:30.582 --> 00:17:31.950 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND GOD'S SPIRIT, HOLY SPIRIT. 00:17:32.017 --> 00:17:34.853 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% AND FOR ME, THE DIFFERENCE IN PSYCHIC 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:36.488 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% BECAUSE I HAD A PROPHETIC GIFT, 00:17:36.555 --> 00:17:38.757 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND SO I HAD A VERY HIGH PSYCHIC GIFT. 00:17:38.824 --> 00:17:40.726 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND THE DEVIL USED IT THAT WAY. 00:17:40.793 --> 00:17:43.595 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% BUT PSYCHIC IS DONE BY YOU. 00:17:43.662 --> 00:17:44.530 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% YOU THINK IT'S YOU. 00:17:44.596 --> 00:17:46.031 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT. 00:17:46.098 --> 00:17:46.999 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% I FOUND OUT AFTERWARDS, 00:17:47.065 --> 00:17:48.133 align:center line:85% position:50% size:23% IT'S NOT. 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:50.436 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% IT'S ACTUALLY THE DEMONIC REALM SPEAKING INTO YOU 00:17:50.502 --> 00:17:51.837 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% AND GIVING YOU THAT WISDOM 00:17:51.904 --> 00:17:53.405 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% TO TRICK YOU OR DECEIVE YOU 00:17:53.472 --> 00:17:55.441 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AND PUT A LITTLE BIT OF TRUTH IN THERE 00:17:55.507 --> 00:17:58.310 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% AND THEN THEY LEAD YOU DOWN A VERY BAD PATH. 00:17:58.377 --> 00:17:59.978 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% WHERE GOD, IT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT 00:18:00.045 --> 00:18:01.280 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% THAT GIVES THAT GIFT, 00:18:01.346 --> 00:18:02.981 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND THE PROPHETIC BRINGS VICTORY, 00:18:03.048 --> 00:18:03.682 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% IT BRINGS JOY. 00:18:03.749 --> 00:18:04.616 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% IT BRINGS PEACE. 00:18:04.683 --> 00:18:07.786 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% IT BRINGS THE FRUITS OF THAT SPIRIT. 00:18:07.853 --> 00:18:08.821 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% AND SO I NOW, 00:18:08.887 --> 00:18:10.556 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% WHEN I PROPHESY OR GET WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE, 00:18:10.622 --> 00:18:11.757 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% OR WHATEVER I DO, 00:18:11.824 --> 00:18:13.959 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% IT'S FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF SOMEONE. 00:18:14.026 --> 00:18:14.960 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% IT'S TO BUILD THEM UP. 00:18:15.027 --> 00:18:17.930 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% IT'S NOT ABOUT FORETELLING, ARE YOU GONNA 00:18:17.996 --> 00:18:18.597 align:center line:85% position:50% size:30% GET MARRIED? 00:18:18.664 --> 00:18:19.298 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% IS THIS GONNA HAPPEN? 00:18:19.364 --> 00:18:19.965 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN? 00:18:20.032 --> 00:18:21.500 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% SO PSYCHIC IS DEALING 00:18:21.567 --> 00:18:22.468 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% WITH THE DEMONIC REALM 00:18:22.534 --> 00:18:24.169 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% WHERE PROPHETIC WORD 00:18:24.236 --> 00:18:26.138 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% IS DEALING WITH GOD'S REALM. 00:18:26.205 --> 00:18:28.006 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% REBECCA: OH, THAT'S SUCH A GOOD EXPLANATION. 00:18:28.073 --> 00:18:29.942 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, 00:18:30.008 --> 00:18:32.678 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% YOU DO NOT WANT TO GIVE INTO A FALSE PROPHECY 00:18:32.744 --> 00:18:33.645 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% GIVEN BY A DEMON. 00:18:33.712 --> 00:18:35.380 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% YOU DON'T WANT TO COME INTO AGREEMENT 00:18:35.447 --> 00:18:37.249 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% WITH THAT BEING SPOKEN OVER YOUR LIFE, 00:18:37.316 --> 00:18:38.917 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% AND BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING THAT. 00:18:38.984 --> 00:18:40.752 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% YOU WANT TO FOLLOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:18:40.819 --> 00:18:42.154 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% THAT'S WHAT MAKES US SONS OF GOD, 00:18:42.221 --> 00:18:43.789 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THOSE WHO ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD. 00:18:43.856 --> 00:18:44.790 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% ALAN: EXACTLY. 00:18:44.857 --> 00:18:45.891 align:center line:74% position:50% size:35% REBECCA: OKAY. 00:18:45.958 --> 00:18:47.025 align:center line:74% position:50% size:23% SO I'M -- 00:18:47.092 --> 00:18:48.794 align:center line:69% position:50% size:63% I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA PRONOUNCE THIS CORRECTLY. 00:18:48.861 --> 00:18:50.329 align:center line:69% position:50% size:45% BUT I ACTUALLY SEE THIS A LOT ON, 00:18:50.395 --> 00:18:53.699 align:center line:74% position:50% size:58% IN MILLENNIAL PRODUCTS. 00:18:53.765 --> 00:18:58.070 align:center line:69% position:50% size:80% AND I'VE SEEN IT TALKED ABOUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND STUFF. 00:18:58.136 --> 00:19:00.239 align:center line:74% position:50% size:40% BUT IS IT REIKI? 00:19:00.305 --> 00:19:00.906 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% WHAT IS THAT? 00:19:00.973 --> 00:19:02.241 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% ALAN: OH, REIKI, YEAH. 00:19:02.307 --> 00:19:05.744 align:center line:79% position:50% size:75% REIKI IS A, I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE READER'S DIGEST ON IT, 00:19:05.811 --> 00:19:08.947 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% BUT REIKI IS A COUNTERFEIT OF LAYING ON OF HANDS. 00:19:09.014 --> 00:19:12.017 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% IT'S, THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT LAYING ON OF HANDS 00:19:12.084 --> 00:19:13.385 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% TO HEAL THE SICK. 00:19:13.452 --> 00:19:18.156 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% REIKI IS THE EXACT COUNTERFEIT OF IT. 00:19:18.223 --> 00:19:19.191 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% I DO HAVE RESOURCES ON IT. 00:19:19.258 --> 00:19:21.393 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% BUT BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, 00:19:21.460 --> 00:19:24.997 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70% IT WAS FOUNDED BY A JAPANESE MAN MANY CENTURIES AGO 00:19:25.063 --> 00:19:27.900 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% THAT BELIEVED THAT THERE COULD BE POWER. 00:19:27.966 --> 00:19:29.434 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% HE CALLS HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN. 00:19:29.501 --> 00:19:30.569 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY, 00:19:30.636 --> 00:19:31.803 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% OH, CHRISTIANS CAN DO IT AS WELL. 00:19:31.870 --> 00:19:32.638 align:center line:85% position:50% size:28% IT'S FALSE. 00:19:32.704 --> 00:19:33.805 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% IF YOU ACTUALLY STUDY ENOUGH, 00:19:33.872 --> 00:19:35.807 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% OR YOU GO DOWN FAR ENOUGH, 00:19:35.874 --> 00:19:36.775 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% IT'S NOT CHRISTIAN AT ALL. 00:19:36.842 --> 00:19:38.010 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY. 00:19:38.076 --> 00:19:39.111 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% BUT SEE, THAT'S THE PROBLEM, 00:19:39.177 --> 00:19:41.747 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% A LOT OF CHRISTIANS DON'T DISCERN IN THEIR SPIRIT. 00:19:41.813 --> 00:19:44.082 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% THEY MAKE DECISIONS OUT OF THEIR SOUL. 00:19:44.149 --> 00:19:45.918 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% IF IT FEELS GOOD, 00:19:45.984 --> 00:19:47.286 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% OR I FELT LIKE THAT WAS GREAT, 00:19:47.352 --> 00:19:48.153 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% OR I LIKED DOING THAT 00:19:48.220 --> 00:19:49.621 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% BECAUSE IT FELT GOOD, 00:19:49.688 --> 00:19:51.356 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% THEN THEY MAKE A DECISION ON THAT, 00:19:51.423 --> 00:19:53.392 align:center line:85% position:50% size:75% BUT THAT'S THE DANGEROUS PART. 00:19:53.458 --> 00:19:54.893 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% WE HAVE TO DISCERN WITH OUR SPIRIT. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:56.428 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND EVEN IF WE NEVER KNOW WHY, 00:19:56.495 --> 00:19:57.362 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% WE STAY AWAY FROM IT, 00:19:57.429 --> 00:19:59.531 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% BECAUSE GOD'S WARNING US TO STAY AWAY. 00:19:59.598 --> 00:20:02.568 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% SO REIKI IS A COUNTERFEIT OF LAYING ON OF HANDS. 00:20:02.634 --> 00:20:05.737 align:center line:79% position:50% size:73% BASICALLY, YOU GO THROUGH DIFFERENT COURSES TO ADVANCE. 00:20:05.804 --> 00:20:07.839 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% YOU'RE TAUGHT HOW TO LAY HANDS ON PEOPLE 00:20:07.906 --> 00:20:09.141 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% WITH AN ENERGY GOING THROUGH, 00:20:09.207 --> 00:20:11.476 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% AND YOU FOCUS ON DIFFERENT JAPANESE SYMBOLS, 00:20:11.543 --> 00:20:14.546 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% THE BUDDHIST SYMBOLS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. 00:20:14.613 --> 00:20:15.447 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% IT'S VERY INVOLVED. 00:20:15.514 --> 00:20:16.915 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% BUT BASICALLY, IT'S A COUNTERFEIT. 00:20:16.982 --> 00:20:19.117 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% THE ENEMY WILL COUNTERFEIT ANYTHING FROM GOD 00:20:19.184 --> 00:20:22.154 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68% BECAUSE HE WANTS TO DECEIVE AND PULL PEOPLE AWAY. 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:24.423 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% REBECCA: THAT IS SO INTERESTING. 00:20:24.489 --> 00:20:25.457 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% EVERY ONE OF THESE THINGS 00:20:25.524 --> 00:20:28.327 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% IS JUST PERVERTING WHAT GOD HAS ALREADY DONE 00:20:28.393 --> 00:20:29.962 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% IN TRYING TO DRAW PEOPLE AWAY FROM HIM. 00:20:30.028 --> 00:20:32.698 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% THAT'S JUST BLOWING MY MIND. 00:20:32.764 --> 00:20:36.802 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% OKAY, SO NEXT IS SOUL TRAVEL 00:20:36.868 --> 00:20:39.371 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% AND ASTRAL TRAVELING. 00:20:39.438 --> 00:20:42.240 align:center line:79% position:50% size:75% ALAN: BASICALLY, WHAT SOUL TRAVELING AND ASTRAL TRAVELING 00:20:42.307 --> 00:20:44.509 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% IS SUPPOSEDLY WHAT YOU DO IS 00:20:44.576 --> 00:20:45.777 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% YOU LEAVE YOUR BODY, 00:20:45.844 --> 00:20:46.912 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% AND YOUR SOUL 00:20:46.979 --> 00:20:50.482 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% THEN TRAVELS IN REALTIME TO OTHER PEOPLE, 00:20:50.549 --> 00:20:52.351 align:center line:85% position:50% size:70% OR OTHER PLACES OR WHATEVER. 00:20:52.417 --> 00:20:55.087 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% BUT YOU DO IT SUPPOSEDLY, 00:20:55.153 --> 00:20:57.923 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% LIKE A LOT OF NEW AGERS CALL THE SPIRIT SOUL. 00:20:57.990 --> 00:20:59.658 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% SO THEIR SOUL TRAVELS, 00:20:59.725 --> 00:21:03.629 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% IT'S JUST, IT'S DEMONIC. 00:21:03.695 --> 00:21:05.831 align:center line:85% position:50% size:40% IT'S MISLEADING. 00:21:05.897 --> 00:21:08.800 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% IT TAKES PEOPLE INTO A WHOLE OTHER REALM. 00:21:08.867 --> 00:21:10.769 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% I THINK THAT SOMETIMES 00:21:10.836 --> 00:21:12.938 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% IT'S REAL AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. 00:21:13.005 --> 00:21:14.539 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% SOMETIMES IT'S A HYPNOTIC STATE, 00:21:14.606 --> 00:21:17.476 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% AND SOMETIMES IT'S A SPIRITUAL PSYCHOTIC STATE 00:21:17.542 --> 00:21:19.911 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FEEL LIKE 00:21:19.978 --> 00:21:20.779 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, 00:21:20.846 --> 00:21:22.481 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 00:21:22.547 --> 00:21:24.616 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% REBECCA: OKAY, AND THEN TWO MORE, 00:21:24.683 --> 00:21:25.984 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% CHAKRA HEALING. 00:21:26.051 --> 00:21:28.320 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% BECAUSE I SEE STUFF ABOUT CHAKRAS 00:21:28.387 --> 00:21:29.988 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% ALL THE TIME. 00:21:30.055 --> 00:21:31.823 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% ALAN: I LIKE YOU ASKING ME THESE QUESTIONS 00:21:31.890 --> 00:21:33.725 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% BECAUSE I LOVE BEING ABLE 00:21:33.792 --> 00:21:35.527 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% TO TELL FROM WHERE I WAS, 00:21:35.594 --> 00:21:37.429 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% AND WHERE I AM NOW. 00:21:37.496 --> 00:21:39.831 align:center line:85% position:50% size:68% IT CONSTANTLY GIVES ME THAT 00:21:39.898 --> 00:21:42.668 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% SPIRIT FEELING OF THAT JESUS RESCUED ME. 00:21:42.734 --> 00:21:43.035 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% REBECCA: YES. 00:21:43.101 --> 00:21:44.102 align:center line:85% position:50% size:13% AMEN. 00:21:44.169 --> 00:21:47.205 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% ALAN: FROM ANCIENT CHINESE, BUDDHISM, TAOISM, 00:21:47.272 --> 00:21:48.840 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% IF YOU GO BACK MANY CENTURIES, 00:21:48.907 --> 00:21:51.576 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% EVEN MILLENNIALS, 00:21:51.643 --> 00:21:52.544 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% AND EVEN IN HINDUISM, 00:21:52.611 --> 00:21:53.745 align:center line:85% position:68% size:45% THE BELIEF IS THAT 00:21:53.812 --> 00:21:56.748 align:center line:69% position:50% size:43% AS A BODY WE HAVE ENERGY CENTERS. 00:21:56.815 --> 00:21:57.849 align:center line:74% position:50% size:58% STARTING FROM OUR ROOF, 00:21:57.916 --> 00:21:58.984 align:center line:74% position:50% size:35% THE CROWN ONE, 00:21:59.051 --> 00:22:01.853 align:center line:69% position:50% size:58% RIGHT DOWN THROUGH, AND THEY CALL THEM CHAKRAS. 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:06.358 align:center line:69% position:50% size:65% SOME CHINESE PEOPLE WILL CALL THEM PRESSURE POINTS. 00:22:06.425 --> 00:22:08.994 align:center line:69% position:50% size:63% BUT BASICALLY THE CHAKRAS ARE CALLED HINDU 00:22:09.061 --> 00:22:13.098 align:center line:69% position:50% size:55% SPIRITUAL POINTS WHERE IN THE HINDUISM, 00:22:13.165 --> 00:22:16.935 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% YOUR WHOLE AIM IS TO SPIRITUALLY EVOLVE THROUGH 00:22:17.002 --> 00:22:18.270 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% THE DIFFERENT CHAKRAS 00:22:18.336 --> 00:22:20.739 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% THROUGH RITUALS UNTIL YOU REACH THE CROWN CHAKRA, 00:22:20.806 --> 00:22:23.041 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% WHICH IS WHEN YOU LINK WITH BRAHMA OR VISHNU OR 00:22:23.108 --> 00:22:25.310 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% KALI, THE HINDU GODS. 00:22:25.377 --> 00:22:28.947 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% NOW THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT, 00:22:29.014 --> 00:22:30.215 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% IS THAT SOMETIMES CHRISTIANS, 00:22:30.282 --> 00:22:32.317 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND EVEN PEOPLE THAT DO THAT STUFF, 00:22:32.384 --> 00:22:33.518 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% WILL SAY IT'S OKAY 00:22:33.585 --> 00:22:35.487 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% BECAUSE WE HAVE ENERGY CENTERS. 00:22:35.554 --> 00:22:37.622 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% WELL, NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T. 00:22:37.689 --> 00:22:38.557 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% WE DON'T HAVE ENERGY CENTERS, 00:22:38.623 --> 00:22:39.758 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% WE HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:22:39.825 --> 00:22:41.359 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% THAT'S THE SPIRIT WE HAVE. 00:22:41.426 --> 00:22:42.027 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% AND THEN THEY'LL SAY, 00:22:42.094 --> 00:22:43.995 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% BUT THEY USE THEM 00:22:44.062 --> 00:22:44.930 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% I'VE EVEN HEARD CHRISTIANS SAY, 00:22:44.996 --> 00:22:47.866 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% THEY'VE USED THEIR CHAKRAS TO BALANCE 00:22:47.933 --> 00:22:48.900 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% THE SPIRIT IN THEM. 00:22:48.967 --> 00:22:49.835 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND I GO, WELL, THE HOLY SPIRIT DOESN'T NEED 00:22:49.901 --> 00:22:51.870 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% BALANCING, I'M SORRY. 00:22:51.937 --> 00:22:54.339 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% THAT YIN-YANG SYMBOL, 00:22:54.406 --> 00:22:57.075 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% THAT EXISTS, A BALANCE BETWEEN DARK AND GOOD, 00:22:57.142 --> 00:23:00.278 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% MY HOLY SPIRIT DOES NOT NEED BALANCING. 00:23:00.345 --> 00:23:01.213 align:center line:85% position:50% size:43% HE'S PART OF GOD, 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:02.814 align:center line:85% position:50% size:38% HE'S PERFECTED. 00:23:02.881 --> 00:23:04.683 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% HE LIVES INSIDE OF ME, 00:23:04.750 --> 00:23:06.084 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% AND I DON'T NEED TO BALANCE HIM. 00:23:06.151 --> 00:23:07.886 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% I DON'T NEED TO DO RITUALS. 00:23:07.953 --> 00:23:09.888 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% BUT THE DECEPTION, 00:23:09.955 --> 00:23:13.024 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70% UNFORTUNATELY TO CHRISTIANS, IS THAT THEY FEEL SOMETHING. 00:23:13.091 --> 00:23:14.493 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% NOW ONE OF THE BELIEFS, OKAY, 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.094 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% ONE OF THE HINDUISTIC, 00:23:16.161 --> 00:23:17.162 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND IT'S A VERY TRUE THING, 00:23:17.229 --> 00:23:19.765 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% AND I'VE SEEN IT THOUSANDS OF TIMES, 00:23:19.831 --> 00:23:22.334 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% IS THEY BELIEVE THAT A SNAKE SPIRIT, 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:23.201 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% CALLED THE KUNDALINI, 00:23:23.268 --> 00:23:24.436 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% SITS AT THE BASE OF OUR BRAIN, 00:23:24.503 --> 00:23:25.337 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% AND IT NEEDS, 00:23:25.403 --> 00:23:26.371 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% THE BASE OF OUR BACK, 00:23:26.438 --> 00:23:28.373 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND IT NEEDS TO BE ACTIVATED. 00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:29.541 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% WELL, WHAT IT NEEDS, 00:23:29.608 --> 00:23:30.942 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% THEY BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE ACTIVATED 00:23:31.009 --> 00:23:32.644 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% THROUGH THE CHAKRAS. 00:23:32.711 --> 00:23:34.212 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% ALL RIGHT, NOW NUMBER ONE, 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:35.514 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% IT'S DEMONIC. 00:23:35.580 --> 00:23:37.883 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% AND ANYTIME IT'S ACTIVATED, 00:23:37.949 --> 00:23:40.252 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% YOU SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT IN PEOPLE. 00:23:40.318 --> 00:23:42.187 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% I WAS EVEN JUST TALKING TO SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY 00:23:42.254 --> 00:23:44.656 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% THAT NEEDED A QUICK DELIVERANCE OF IT. 00:23:44.723 --> 00:23:46.324 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY HAD DONE. 00:23:46.391 --> 00:23:48.593 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% BUT ALL THESE THINGS HAD STARTED TO HAPPEN TO THEM 00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:51.463 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% STRAIGHT AFTER, THEY WERE IN A CLASS, 00:23:51.530 --> 00:23:54.599 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% AND THEY DID A BREATHING EXERCISE TO AWAKEN IT 00:23:54.666 --> 00:23:56.668 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% AND THEN THEIR WHOLE LIFE WAS A MESS. 00:23:56.735 --> 00:23:59.704 align:center line:79% position:50% size:63% THEY WERE ALMOST TO A WHOLE POINT OF PARAPLEGIC 00:23:59.771 --> 00:24:00.872 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% BECAUSE OF THAT THING. 00:24:00.939 --> 00:24:01.606 align:center line:85% position:50% size:35% IT IS DEMONIC. 00:24:01.673 --> 00:24:02.641 align:center line:85% position:50% size:28% IT'S WRONG. 00:24:02.707 --> 00:24:03.608 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN GO NEAR IT. 00:24:03.675 --> 00:24:05.277 align:center line:79% position:50% size:45% BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D ADD THAT IN. 00:24:05.343 --> 00:24:06.344 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% THAT'S WHAT THEY TRY TO DO 00:24:06.411 --> 00:24:07.412 align:center line:85% position:50% size:50% THROUGH THE CHAKRAS, 00:24:07.479 --> 00:24:09.381 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% RELEASE THE ENERGY THROUGH, 00:24:09.447 --> 00:24:12.417 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% SO THAT YOU, YOUR SPIRIT EVOLVES. 00:24:12.484 --> 00:24:16.221 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% BUT, CHRISTIANS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. 00:24:16.288 --> 00:24:17.489 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% WE JUST HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:24:17.556 --> 00:24:18.557 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% REBECCA: YES. 00:24:18.623 --> 00:24:19.991 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THAT, 00:24:20.058 --> 00:24:22.661 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% AND I HEARD IT WAS A SNAKE AT THE BASE OF YOUR BACK, 00:24:22.727 --> 00:24:24.095 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% I WAS LIKE, OF ALL ANIMALS, 00:24:24.162 --> 00:24:24.930 align:center line:85% position:50% size:33% IT'S A SNAKE. 00:24:24.996 --> 00:24:26.531 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% I WAS LIKE IF YOU NEED ANYMORE SIGN 00:24:26.598 --> 00:24:28.700 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% THAT THIS IS NOT OF GOD, 00:24:28.767 --> 00:24:29.668 align:center line:85% position:50% size:30% IT'S A SNAKE 00:24:29.734 --> 00:24:31.536 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THAT YOU'RE ALLOWING TO TRAVEL UP. 00:24:31.603 --> 00:24:32.804 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% OH, AND I JUST REALLY -- 00:24:32.871 --> 00:24:34.306 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70% I REMEMBER THERE'S TWO MORE THAT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT 00:24:34.372 --> 00:24:35.707 align:center line:79% position:50% size:40% BECAUSE YOU JUST REMINDED ME. 00:24:35.774 --> 00:24:37.108 align:center line:85% position:50% size:28% WHAT IS UP, 00:24:37.175 --> 00:24:38.143 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH CHAKRAS, 00:24:38.210 --> 00:24:39.644 align:center line:79% position:50% size:38% WHAT IS UP WITH THE OBSESSION 00:24:39.711 --> 00:24:41.246 align:center line:85% position:50% size:60% WITH LIKE YOUR THIRD EYE 00:24:41.313 --> 00:24:44.216 align:center line:79% position:50% size:55% AND YOUR LIKE PINEAL GLAND AND ALL OF THAT? 00:24:44.282 --> 00:24:45.917 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% ALAN: WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S A CHAKRA POINT 00:24:45.984 --> 00:24:47.352 align:center line:79% position:50% size:43% BEFORE YOU HIT THE CROWN CHAKRA. 00:24:47.419 --> 00:24:50.255 align:center line:79% position:50% size:60% SO THAT'S A VERY STRONG, YOU KNOW, ENERGY POINT. 00:24:50.322 --> 00:24:51.556 align:center line:79% position:50% size:35% AND I'VE HEARD CHRISTIANS SAY 00:24:51.623 --> 00:24:53.558 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% THAT, OH, THEY FEEL LIKE GOD HAS BEEN TOUCHING THEM 00:24:53.625 --> 00:24:54.226 align:center line:85% position:50% size:48% WITH THE THIRD EYE. 00:24:54.292 --> 00:24:55.927 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% I GO, NO, THAT'S NOT GOD. 00:24:55.994 --> 00:24:56.528 align:center line:85% position:50% size:58% THAT'S THE OTHER THING, 00:24:56.595 --> 00:24:57.596 align:center line:85% position:50% size:53% PEOPLE DON'T DISCERN. 00:24:57.662 --> 00:24:59.164 align:center line:79% position:50% size:50% THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE STRONG RELATIONSHIPS 00:24:59.231 --> 00:25:01.499 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OR WITH GOD OR WITH JESUS, 00:25:01.566 --> 00:25:03.034 align:center line:85% position:50% size:65% SO THEY'RE NOT DISCERNING. 00:25:03.101 --> 00:25:05.770 align:center line:79% position:50% size:65% AS I SAID, THEY'RE MAKING, ESPECIALLY IN THIS SEASON, 00:25:05.837 --> 00:25:06.838 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% MAKING A LOT OF DECISIONS 00:25:06.905 --> 00:25:08.673 align:center line:79% position:50% size:58% BASED ON THEIR SOUL AND THEIR FEELING VERSUS 00:25:08.740 --> 00:25:10.709 align:center line:85% position:50% size:63% WHAT'S THE SPIRIT SAYING. 00:25:10.775 --> 00:25:12.711 align:center line:79% position:50% size:70% REBECCA: I HAD SO MANY QUESTIONS FOR ALAN STRUDWICK 00:25:12.777 --> 00:25:14.946 align:center line:79% position:50% size:53% THAT OUR CONVERSATION JUST KEPT GOING. 00:25:15.013 --> 00:25:16.081 align:center line:85% position:50% size:55% THIS IS ONLY PART ONE. 00:25:16.147 --> 00:25:18.783 align:center line:79% position:50% size:68% SO STAY TUNED FOR MORE COMPELLING CONTENT TO COME. 00:25:18.850 --> 00:25:20.385 align:center line:79% position:50% size:48% YOU CAN ALSO FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM 00:25:20.452 --> 00:25:22.254 align:center line:85% position:50% size:45% @REBECCALAMBWEISS. 00:25:22.320 --> 00:25:24.522 align:center line:85% position:50% size:05% ♪♪